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[kevinjohnsonmbe]

4 hours ago, openspaceman said:

How come you keep dredging this figure up?

Quite simply, because it provides some context to the relentless cries of underfunding in the NHS and begs the question, are ‘we’ getting VfM. 
 

 

[David Cropper]

Not being funny mate, of the 2 of us, I’d suggest you’d have far greater success at the Paralympic Games than I. 
 

Your geographical handicap has resulted in political retardation.
 

Ah, nice,  Mr Johnson. Those two barbs may just liven up what looks like another dull day in purdah. I thank you, Sir. God bless you.

[trigger_andy]

9 hours ago, djbobbins said:

 

I like to think I am a pretty good judge of a person, although I have a tendency to be too trusting. I have got no time for Johnson at all, I think he’s a charlatan that doesn’t have the sense of duty to undertake the role he’s in. I don’t doubt his intelligence but I think the whole buffoon thing is part affectation, part consequence of not being interested in any detail that isn’t self-serving.

I posted a link to the Sunday Times article on my Facebook yesterday evening (of which I have a few as FB contacts) and am yet to hear a dickie bird by way of a comment in Boris’ defence.

Initial gloss wearing off??

 

I dont think the gloss is wearing off, where it ever there in the first place. I think collectively those with even a median level of intelligence are still letting out a deep slow breath that Labour did not win the last election. Johnson was by far the lesser of two evils when stood next to Corbyn. 

 

Many people who continually whine about Johnson and the Tories seem to suffer from conformation bias and will of course find links to back up their point of view. You simply cannot debate with these types. So the usual Twatter/Facebook ranters are all out in full force whinging at Johnson? I'll assume many just dont care about their point of view enough to bother replying to it. Ive seen a fellow Arbtalk member posting what I think is nonsense regarding this very issue and I'll not engage him there about it but will happily do so here.  

[Stere]

The Times is a  a Pinko press? ?

 

Nah its  tory but less "red trousers" than the telegraph who would support Boris even if he declared himself  King of UK, and his many offspring the new heirs.

 

Or went round starkers in public barking like a dog etc.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Johnsond]

6 hours ago, Mark J said:

Mate, I'm just a scientist who works with trees.  If I had a clue about politics, I'd probably be a politician.
I know a little bit about viruses and how they work but I'm no epidomologist either.
I'd prefer it if the people 'in charge' seemed to have a clue. I really think that the gov deserves a hiding for the way they've handled it. I can't see how anyone would think anything other than that.
Unless of couse, you can enlighten me on the good work the gov is doing?

Look out the window Mark the sun is shining this morning so try and let a bit of that bounce off you. Regarding defeatist that’s  not quite how I see it more akin to being jaded after watching all my life a succession of labour then conservative then labour then conservative ?‍♂️?‍♂️. The saying you can’t please all the people all the time is very true, you can’t realistically expect any government to be totally ahead of every game and  expert in all fields. If they had shut down things as the Chinese did the civil liberties crowd would have went nuts. My own view is as an island nation we missed a golden opportunity to seal all borders and cut nearly all commercial flights out right at the beginning , ( Globalisation ??) I’ve no doubt they acted on advice but hey ho I’m not whining about it. Im not here to support or deride anyone so don’t feel the need to sit and put up links to any good work that’s being done. 
On a different  totally non political  note once this is all done I’ll be down in Northumberland to see family and will need a dozen or so logs to mill up to do some repairs at my sisters stables, any ideas ??. You can buy me a coffee too and put it on  ltd company expenses ?

Edited April 20, 2020 by Johnsond

[kevinjohnsonmbe]

37 minutes ago, trigger_andy said:

I dont think the gloss is wearing off, where it ever there in the first place. I think collectively those with even a median level of intelligence are still letting out a deep slow breath that Labour did not win the last election. Johnson was by far the lesser of two evils when stood next to Corbyn. 

 

Many people who continually whine about Johnson and the Tories seem to suffer from conformation bias and will of course find links to back up their point of view. You simply cannot debate with these types. So the usual Twatter/Facebook ranters are all out in full force whinging at Johnson? I'll assume many just dont care about their point of view enough to bother replying to it. Ive seen a fellow Arbtalk member posting what I think is nonsense regarding this very issue and I'll not engage him there about it but will happily do so here.  

 

[Guest Gimlet]

57 minutes ago, Stere said:

The Times is a  a Pinko press? ?

 

Nah its  tory but less "red trousers" than the telegraph who would support Boris even if he declared himself  King of UK, and his many offspring the new heirs.

 

Or went round starkers in public barking like a dog etc.

 

The Telegraph is pinko compared to my views and Boris Johnson is left of Blair on the things that matter to me.

But TBH I couldn't care less about the press (or the government). Since this virus shit started I've stopped following news on TV or online and I haven't picked up a newspaper. Now I even switch channels to skip nauseating we're-all-in-this-together TV ads and we-love-"our"-NHS shite and life is much better for it. 

It makes threads like this more entertaining because I no longer know the details of what you're arguing so it becomes just a clash of personalities which underlines the pointlessness of arguing in the first place. 

 

In the end, this country, like this world, is pathologically overcrowded and no amount of bickering will mend that catastrophe, and it makes no difference which metropolitan urban Canute obsessed with stoking ever more consumption, an ever higher population, and pursuing "growth" by burying more of the earth under concrete occupies no. 10. 

 

Edited April 20, 2020 by Gimlet

[kevinjohnsonmbe]

12 minutes ago, Gimlet said:

The Telegraph is pinko compared to my views and Boris Johnson is left of Blair on the things that matter to me.

But TBH I couldn't care less about the press (or the government). Since this virus shit started I've stopped following news on TV or online and I haven't picked up a newspaper. Now I even switch channels to skip nauseating we're-all-in-this-together TV ads and we-love-"our"-NHS shite and life is much better for it. 

It makes threads like this more entertaining because I no longer know the details of what you're arguing so it becomes just a clash of personalities which underlines the pointlessness of arguing in the first place. 

 

In the end, this country, like this world, is pathologically overcrowded and no amount of bickering will mend that catastrophe, and it makes no difference which metropolitan urban Canute obsessed with stoking ever more consumption, an ever higher population, and pursuing "growth" by burying more of the earth under concrete occupies no. 10. 

 

And the understandably uncomfortable truth that nobody wants to confront or discuss (most notable by their deafening silence are the so called “Greens”) is that population must be restricted to within sustainable levels according to the area inhabited. 

[Mark J]

1 hour ago, Johnsond said:

you can’t realistically expect any government to be totally ahead of every game and  expert in all fields

Why not?
If that is the case, then what's the point of them if they don't know what they're doing?
If I was responsible for looking after 70 odd million people, I'd be hiring the very best people.

 

1 hour ago, Johnsond said:

On a different  totally non political  note once this is all done I’ll be down in Northumberland to see family and will need a dozen or so logs to mill up to do some repairs at my sisters stables, any ideas ??. You can buy me a coffee too and put it on  ltd company expenses ?

I'll be able to source, or point you in the right direction for logs. If I make some money off it, then by all means you can have a coffee on expenses. If not, I'll buy you a pint.
 

[Stere]

Not all greens it seems

 

Eco fascism ? "Blood and Soil"  strand has being around for ages

 

So how about 1 child policy for the UK? with zero immigration allowed

 

In a few generations pop will head down to more sustainable levels...

 

Green and pleasant land