Making the news today....

[David Cropper]

46 minutes ago, eggsarascal said:

I've a feeling we both might get a verbal kicking when he gets back from mincing around, or whatever it is retired sailors do. It certainly isn't a lot of work.

Ex matelots usually sit in a quay side pub sporting an unkempt beard that nesting birds live in, saying wise words like lubber, avast and other gems. They especially like the well worn phrase " pass the cabin boy to me."  They often have a knackered old fishing net on their knees that they pretend to mend to impress the tourists. Vast amounts of free ale and rum are consumed by the said net mender, all the while talking in the manner of Robert Newton playing role of Long John Silver. Very impressive to witness. I am now progressing to Champagne, so will be spouting more crap. I apologise in advance .

[Mark J]

On 03/05/2019 at 10:04, Woodworks said:

Out of interest what do you think is the most impartial online news service? I was brought up with the BBC and used to consider it fairly balanced but those days seem to be long gone sadly. 

I may have been mistaken. Perhaps some of them are prepared to tell the truth:

 

[Woodworks]

16 minutes ago, Mark J said:

I may have been mistaken. Perhaps some of them are prepared to tell the truth:

 

Yep, it was their coverage of this that made me ask the question. The bias was astonishing. I am not a labour voter to date but thought they were given almost an equally hard time in spite of only having a fraction of the loses. Not to mention the beeb hardly mentioning the huge gains for liberal democrats. Is it not possible the lib dems did so well due to their stance on brexit as opposed to wanting to kick the conservatives? Just appalling bad coverage all around.

[difflock]

I figger that the not unreasonable presumption was that if Labour had had even ever kinda got their shit together, at all, under  credible leadership, i.e. sans Comrades Corbyn, Abbot and McDonnell,

they should have shit all over the Conservatives in both the House and at the elections.

Since the Conservatives under TM's unique version of Leadership had left themselves stupidly vulnerable.

Defeat snatched from the jaws of victory as it were.

The liberal democrats deserve no praise for scooping up the protest votes from both Labour and Conservative.

mth

[The avantgardener]

News out this morning that there are less GP’s per population than ever before. This is due to far more leaving/ retiring than becoming new ones , won’t stop lying shitbags from the Brexit brigade blaming it on immigrants though, easy target Mr Farage?

[felixthelogchopper]

2 hours ago, The avantgardener said:

News out this morning that there are less GP’s per population than ever before. This is due to far more leaving/ retiring than becoming new ones , won’t stop lying shitbags from the Brexit brigade blaming it on immigrants though, easy target Mr Farage?

TBF, immigrants could be responsible for this. After all, if the doctors don't come from other countries then highly likely we will be short of GPs, nurses and many other health care professionals.

[Khriss]

The NHS has historically relied on Pakistani and Indian Drs since 1960s ( and the fact their sons n daughters always go *pushed* into medicine ) those old boys are now passing thru their 70's n still practising ( both GPS I have had were Indian n in their 60's ) so it's down to NHS  n .Gov to get this sorted as they been coasting on this boon since back when. K

[kevinjohnsonmbe]

18 minutes ago, Khriss said:

The NHS has historically relied on Pakistani and Indian Drs since 1960s ( and the fact their sons n daughters always go *pushed* into medicine ) those old boys are now passing thru their 70's n still practising ( both GPS I have had were Indian n in their 60's ) so it's down to NHS  n .Gov to get this sorted as they been coasting on this boon since back when. K

“Apparently” an insurmountable problem which the great minds of successive governments of all colours, have been unable resolve. 

 

If only there was a blindingly obvious, relatively easily implemented, tried & tested, demonstrably affective system of controlling the number, quality and term of residence granted already in use elsewhere in the world which could be simply copied and rolled out without any significant effort....

 

I guess, until some simple sense and honesty  is applied (and the whiny, hairy shirt wearing hysterics of the loony left misinterpretation of ‘controlled’ immigration as being somehow xenophobic or racist) we’ll have to carry on pretending that a points based immigration system isn’t the blindingly obvious way to go....

[openspaceman]

1 hour ago, Khriss said:

The NHS has historically relied on Pakistani and Indian Drs since 1960s ( and the fact their sons n daughters always go *pushed* into medicine ) those old boys are now passing thru their 70's n still practising ( both GPS I have had were Indian n in their 60's ) so it's down to NHS  n .Gov to get this sorted as they been coasting on this boon since back when. K

Yes and in the short term recruiting from abroad may be the only way but why are school leavers and then graduates and trainee doctors not being recruited internally?

 

At least 4 of my final year at school graduated as doctors, though I lost contact with all but one who became a senior brain surgeon with homes in US and London.

 

Mind it's a job I could never do and even my wife gave up her job as a doctor's receptionist because of the emotional stress.

 

The other thing that springs to mind is that GPs do less treatment than in the past, medicine having become more specialised and centred on hospitals' specialism, so the GPs role could largely be done with AI??

[tree-fancier123]

4 hours ago, The avantgardener said:

News out this morning that there are less GP’s per population than ever before. This is due to far more leaving/ retiring than becoming new ones , won’t stop lying shitbags from the Brexit brigade blaming it on immigrants though, easy target Mr Farage?

From the Office for National Statistics -

Net migration continues to add to the population of the UK as an estimated 283,000 more people moved to the UK with an intention to stay 12 months or more than left in the year ending September 2018. Over the year, 627,000 people moved to the UK (immigration) and 345,000 people left the UK (emigration).

 

That net figure of 280k has been similar for over 10 years - how many new doctors do you think are needed each time we import another 200000 people?

 

Over the last 10 years the NHS should have added at least 2000 GPs, just to treat immigrants.

Immigrants are the problem - even if 2000GPs were imported with every 2m new bods - they would be be adding to traffic conjestion, pollution and just making peoples lives worse

Edited May 8, 2019 by tree-fancier123