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[Steven P]

12 hours ago, Johnsond said:

Hang on here, are you referring to people with “ Downs” as mongs you sick bastard

 

If you are going to use the word make sure you know the meaning of it. BillQ is correct with it's meaning. Suggest a wee apology to him might be in order.

[tree-fancier123]

1 hour ago, Steven P said:

 

If you are going to use the word make sure you know the meaning of it. BillQ is correct with it's meaning. Suggest a wee apology to him might be in order.

No, you mong - British offensive slang for a foolish person, despite the origins the modern meaning has evolved. 

Even Ricky Gervais knows it has a slang meaning

 

"The modern use of the word mong means 'dopey' or 'ignorant'," said Gervais in a statement. "It's even in modern slang and urban dictionaries."

 

Ricky Gervais criticised over Twitter 'mong jokes'

WWW.BBC.CO.UK

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Disability group Mencap criticises Ricky Gervais for using the word "mong" on Twitter but the comedian insists its meaning has changed.

 

[Steven P]

See the bit "Word origin"... offensive term for someone with Downs Syndrome.

[AHPP]

5 hours ago, Mike Hill said:

 

Alex its not going to happen.

 

"Darren  would get Sharron" to buy a gun,Darren would nick it/shoot their kid by accident,hire it to the local yardies before it would end up biffed into the Canal. Every street punk would get some infirm person to buy them a shooter and the streets would become far worse,thats already been covered on here.

 

If the guy who bravely defended the people on the train had a gun then maybe it would have ended sooner,or maybe he would have panicked and mag dumped the lot down a packed carriage killing an maiming even more people.Because the more bullets you have,the more you tend to use.

 

Carrying a pistol is a pain,if its easy enough to carry then its small enough to not be very effective/easy to use.If its a full size pistol then you are constantly aware of it and trying all the time to not expose it,I cant imagine having to ride the tube for example with a pistol in my wasteband,holding onto the overhead rail hoping some nutter wasnt going to make a grab for it.

 

 

 

I know what the political and legal landscape looks like. I'm clearly talking about what could be and should be. And importantly, until very recently, has been. People had these rights not very long ago at all.

 

I'm not interested in Darren and Sharron. I'm interested in me (and then people I like). Criminals who want guns get them. Or knives. And if someone's got a knife, I want a gun.

 

I don't mind if you find guns bulky and can't cope with how they fit with your cute autumn short jackets. I'm talking about indidivual rights. You do what you want. I'll do what I want. I could carry safely. Loads of people could (and do). My facebook feed last week was for some reason full of women's carrying systems. The memorable one was a full size appendix carry that didn't print in a skirt. The woman could carry a child at the same time etc.

 

I'll say it again. It comes down to individual rights. You can't see it working. Fine. You don't have to. But you (anyone) shouldn't be telling other people (via voting for politicians who would cage decent people for carrying to protect themselves) that they shouldn't be allowed to do something just because you don't think you're capable of it. You wouldn't try to drive if you were blind but you wouldn't then tell me I shouldn't drive with my good eyesight.

 

And yes, @Stubby. I didn't say anything about licensing. That's its own issue. https://jpfo.org/filegen-a-m/about.htm

 

[AHPP]

6 hours ago, Mike Hill said:

If the guy who bravely defended the people on the train had a gun then maybe it would have ended sooner,or maybe he would have panicked and mag dumped the lot down a packed carriage killing an maiming even more people.Because the more bullets you have,the more you tend to use.

 

If if if if if. If nobody had stopped him, maybe he'd have butchered the whole carriage and the next one, and the next one, then somewhere else, then somewhere else.

 

It comes down to individual rights again. An individual on the first train, sitting quietly with a gun in a pocket, has the right to not be butchered. They should do their best to shoot safely but at the end of the day they're trying to stay alive, which I think we can agree is fair enough!

Edited 1 hour ago by AHPP

[Mike Hill]

Alex

 

Have you carried a pistol on a daily basis for own or others defence?

 

Until you have done so ( I know you have not) ,please stop with the if,if,if.You are coming across as unstable and creepy.

 

[AHPP]

17 minutes ago, Mike Hill said:

Alex

 

Have you carried a pistol on a daily basis for own or others defence?

 

Until you have done so ( I know you have not) ,please stop with the if,if,if.You are coming across as unstable and creepy.

 

 

Shut the fck up. No I'm not. I'm coming across as an advocate for individual rights because that's what I am. Accusing me of instability and creepiness is as distasteful as when Mark quietly suggested Dave on here was unfit to keep firerarms because of his social/political views (about a hundred pages ago, probably). A crass trick, used by bitches, tyrants and people who can't argue like an adult. Pack it in.

 

And no. I live in an uncilvilised country where it would put me in prison. I know what they look like, I know what they weigh and I know loads of people do carry them. But you don't need to worry about me. You worry about you. That's the ease and joy of individual choice.

 

Did you wake up on Monday and decide to disagree with whatever I said this week as a form of mental exercise?

 

 

 

[Mike Hill]

14 minutes ago, AHPP said:

 

Shut the fck up. No I'm not. I'm coming across as an advocate for individual rights because that's what I am. Accusing me of instability and creepiness is as distasteful as when Mark quietly suggested Dave on here was unfit to keep firerarms because of his social/political views (about a hundred pages ago, probably). A crass trick, used by bitches, tyrants and people who can't argue like an adult. Pack it in.

 

And no. I live in an uncilvilised country where it would put me in prison. I know what they look like, I know what they weigh and I know loads of people do carry them. But you don't need to worry about me. You worry about you. That's the ease and joy of individual choice.

 

Did you wake up on Monday and decide to disagree with whatever I said this week as a form of mental exercise?

 

 

 

As if in comic reinforcement of my previous post.I am out of this discussion. 

 

All the best

 

Mike Hill

[Steven P]

To the knife thing, it is a very rare occurrence, despite the best efforts of the Daily Mail and Telegraph to portray it otherwise. Advocating that we should all arm ourselves with a gun seams a bit over the top and doesn't actually cure the problem of people wanting to carry a knife, nor the fact that you pull a gun on them all you're doing is shifting the problem to someone else who doesn't.

 

Criminals will then assume that the people are armed and just go for bigger guns. Look to the states who have more guns than we do, concealed carry and so on, and yet, they still have the full range of street crimes that we have and in large numbers too.

[Oldfeller]

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