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[Steve Bullman]

16 minutes ago, Steven P said:

 

True, I would find it hard to agree with any medical advice from RFK... but that is based a bit on reading the medical advice he does give. Most of Trumps team do have competence - but not him. (likewise with Trump, lets inject bleach to cure covid...)

 

Recent increases in autism are mostly due to better diagnosis and a lowering of the limits when you get a diagnosis. In reality we are all on the spectrum just the line that is drawn for a diagnosis is above where most of us are. In the UK, at least having an autism diagnosis just means you have enough to need some extra help and consideration (for example in school and exams).

 

Doesn't ruin a life, doesn't end the world, perhaps doesn't need the US president and his sidekick focussing on a non life threatening issue as much as they have done.

Agree to a point..but there is an increase of severe cases. I’m now going through the school system for the second time, 15 years apart and there’s a noticeable difference. 
 

figured are skewed though, with many of the more mild cases that would have just put down to a child being a wrong ‘un many years ago, partly simply down to human behaviour but more likely due to negligent parents ignoring their kids needs or simply throwing them in front of a tablet from a young age.

 

as for the bleach, there’s some critical thinkers out there who understand that trump didn’t mean that literally 

 

the last part about it not ruining a life is debatable

[tree-fancier123]

1 hour ago, sime42 said:

Incorrect. Nothing to do with helping Stephen P, he doesn't require it.

And you'd be likely to admit it, if it were correct?

It's taken you 24 hours to respond to my post - better things to do with your time.

[sime42]

If and it's a very big IF, the prevalence of Autism is on the rise then it being due to environmental factors is far more credible. 
Trump and RFK's latest garbled claim is just that, dangerous confused messaging. It'll do no good.

For example:

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0278691525003898

 

 

 

[sime42]

32 minutes ago, Steven P said:

 

True, I would find it hard to agree with any medical advice from RFK... but that is based a bit on reading the medical advice he does give. Most of Trumps team do have competence - but not him. (likewise with Trump, lets inject bleach to cure covid...)

 

Recent increases in autism are mostly due to better diagnosis and a lowering of the limits when you get a diagnosis. In reality we are all on the spectrum just the line that is drawn for a diagnosis is above where most of us are. In the UK, at least having an autism diagnosis just means you have enough to need some extra help and consideration (for example in school and exams).

 

Doesn't ruin a life, doesn't end the world, perhaps doesn't need the US president and his sidekick focussing on a non life threatening issue as much as they have done.

 

They'd be better off focussing on what US "food" is doing to the nations health, rather than it's medicines. 

 

 

[Steve Bullman]

I also think there would be less diagnosis of autism if there were fewer financial benefits to the parents

[Steven P]

... maybe but the milder cases don't get financial support - got to prove you need the financial support which is the more severe cases and they'd be diagnosed before so would get the support regardless.

[BillQ]

14 hours ago, Johnsond said:

Are we gonna have to wait as long as you quoted ref eggs on another thread I wonder BQ

Well let's just have a look shall we, out of nowhere you insult me and immediately ask what ships I was on. Normally if it is just a side issue a DM would suffice, but due to your nature in other threads this was unlikely as you have had a go at people because they aren't in the arb business, so that is why I asked why. If you had asked if I served on Richmond or Fort George then it would have been a quick conversation, however that's not good enough for you and you press on and so I give the only one that had been built at Swans, but rather than type in her full title I chose to use the pennant number, but that wasn't enough nor a single ship. So I gave you photos and all the seagoing pennant numbers and all the delightful and not so delightful places we visited and for some reason you still want me to put the names up? As others start to question why you need such info you double down.

 

"There wasn’t really any point as such in the question nor any need for a random name to be thrown in or for it becoming a pissing contest of who’s been where and to what port or pub. "

 

If there wasn't a point surely you drop it before those comments above? No, you have to fight your corner and start belittling people who are giving you an out, but you can't back away from the hole you dug. So you keep it up. I gave you the names of them, why you couldn't Google them I don't know. If you want I can look at my records and give you dates of joining/leaving and also the shore bases, Fisgard, Sultan, Caledonia, Nelson, Royal Arthur, Drake. 

 

"Don’t judge people by your own standards lad" 

 

Lad? More belittling and diverting and eventually off on a tangent about RN TV shows. 

 

You tried to call me out as a Walt, it didn't work, get back under your bridge. 

[BillQ]

4 hours ago, Steve Bullman said:

For me though it doesnt add up purely based on the fact that Paracetemol has been around for years, which doesn't account for the more recent increase in Autism

Absolutely, though as others say, diagnosis is on the rise. My wife worked with many children and young people who were on the spectrum and we also knew several families where it was prevalent from grandparents to great grandchildren and across the whole spectrum. 

Taking Mencken into account, I wonder if it is just a case of keeping oneself in the limelight by saying something...anything?

[sime42]

Gestational diabetes linked to autism and ADHD in new study

THECONVERSATION.COM

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Children were 36% more likely to be diagnosed with ADHD and 56% more likely to develop autism if their mother had...

 

Trump and RFK are probably well aware that the food and drink industry is worth more than the pharmaceutical industry.