Making the news today....

[Mesterh]

They are planning to have a lunar base around 2030 but they have already had lots of set backs so its probably going to be later than that from what ive read about it.

 

[tree-fancier123]

46 minutes ago, AHPP said:

 

No. It only looks that way because that state monopoly on education in this country makes private education artificially expensive. Society and industry need people to keep the lights on and the wheels turning. It's in their interests to educate people.

More to the point, the state teaches what it wants people to think. Like thinking it's necessary...

 

A perfect little example from yesterday of the free market working gloriously. I called the British Stainless Steel Association to ask a technical question. Their members join and pay voluntarily and part of what that pays for is a bloke to answer the phone to me (someone who's never paid them a penny) and answer questions about austentite, for free. We chatted and the conversation turned to a related industrial association, who are taxvictim funded. They don't give free advice.

 

So yeah. Bugger the state. It doesn't work.

It seems the Stainless Steel Association came into being after a discovery made during state funded warfare

- that doesn't mean that unbridled free marketeers (not necessarily anarchists) couldn't have made the same discovery under different circumstances

 

In 1913, Harry Brearley of Sheffield, UK discovered ‘rustless’ steel. Although there had been many prior attempts, Brearley has been credited with inventing the first true stainless steel, which had a 12.8% chromium content. He had added chromium to molten iron to produce a metal that did not rust. Chromium is a key ingredient, as it provides the resistance to corrosion. After this discovery, Sheffield itself became synonymous with steel and metallurgy.

Brearley stumbled upon this discovery while trying to solve the problem of erosion of the internal surfaces of gun barrels for the British army during the onset of the First World War.

[AHPP]

Let's keep talking about education. Would you maintain state funding for it?

[tree-fancier123]

 I'm not planing on entering politics, so my answer will have no bearing on anything. 

I just think that the state is part of evolution and part of nature, it's not some evil controlling thing. 

If a person gets cancer - that's nature being evil and controlling - a state educated radiographer may help find the lump so it can be zapped or removed, but a privately educated radiographer would do just as good a job without ripping off hard working tax payers?

 

[AHPP]

As it happens, I sort of agree. You could say the state is a natural occurence in natural philosophical (not political) anarchy, since we keep ending up with one. But that does nothing for individuals afflicted by it and I see no reason why we can't strive for something better. If we can actively try to form the world into various authoritarian shapes, why can't we try something arguably equally as un-natural and form it into a politically anarchist shape? Communication and technology for living has never been better.

 

Back in England in 2025, the private radiographer is finding lumps without the politicians and civil servants in the middle making everything cost more. The state radiographer is off with stress, tossing off the mornings going to Pret a Manger with his boyfriend.

[Mesterh]

In real life though, when the private sector fooks up the state ends up bailing them out. I know that that is true for health care. Botched private op then straight to the NHS for the aftercare. 

 

[Johnsond]

10 hours ago, Steven P said:

Anyone notice in the last couple of hours this thread had turned on itself again. Wonder why?

 

 

10 hours ago, Steven P said:

So what else is making the news apart from racism?

 

10 hours ago, Steven P said:

immigrants to there, sorry, ex-pats, I think there is a difference.

 

10 hours ago, Steven P said:

Anyway, back to the squabbling

Was that supposed to be discreet 🤷‍♂️😂, I’ll get you a wooden spoon and a bucket of shit SP if you need. 
Anyway SP looking like Trump the democratically elected president of the USA has banged some heads together and got results 👍👍👍surely you applaud his achievements. 

 

‘A stern message’: how return of Trump loomed over Gaza ceasefire negotiations

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[Stubby]

6 hours ago, Mesterh said:

In real life though, when the private sector fooks up the state ends up bailing them out. I know that that is true for health care. Botched private op then straight to the NHS for the aftercare. 

 

Oddly I have found that in some cases it has been the other way  round . Cocked up knee replacement at an NHS hospital re done at the Nuffield private hospital for example .

[Youngstu]

9 hours ago, AHPP said:

Let's keep talking about education. Would you maintain state funding for it?

Yes, and ideally get rid of the public schools completely as they only continue to increase the divided society. In a system like one of the scandinavian countries (can't remember which) there is no private schooling and therefore the wealthier parents can and do support the education of their little ones, so the schools are well supported by those who can, they are personally invested in them. Our system has so many issues and some of them are worst in broadly affluent areas where the state schools are really not good, partly or mainly because those with money who are "interested" in there children's education and can find the means use the private option. The them and us is only perpetuated by having schools for the wealthy and influential.

[Youngstu]

12 hours ago, Johnsond said:

No not at all, you woke lefty types see anger everywhere 🤷‍♂️, the irony is bearing in mind my views on such things it’s actually preparing old gas wells for a CCS scheme, so here I am helping save the world and being paid for it. Tidal job so time on my hands. I finished the Maggie Oliver book recently too which I’d genuinely recommend to the likes of yourself and others who can’t seem to comprehend what went on and how it was covered up. To be honest it’s probably reading that which has caused the utter disgust in me for those refuse to acknowledge the issue to manifest itself a tad more than it normally would. 

 

What you don't seem to realise, or it doesn't fit your narrative is that as far as I remember, nobody on here has disputed what happened, or even disputed that not enough done/there was incompetence or even some kind of cover up of what did or din't happen in the lack of investigation etc.

What people do bring up over and over again and you continue to do, over and over is post negative stories with a very obvious racial/cultural bias. As has been pointed out, the only crimes (or the vast, overwhelming majority) that you highlight on this and other pages are those done by non white, generally muslim perpetrators. At the end of the day, you are hugely selective in what you think that others on this forum need to see, and the determining factors seems to be race/religion.