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@KevinJMBE: I think the days of onerous arguements on the merits of ones' personal predjudice are numbered.
And I'm happy about it. Howay, You should be ashamed of yourself supporting those right wing shithandles.   Have a look at the future:
 
Get used to it too, the fact you desire a rise of the far right makes you a lousy traitor in my books. No Pasaran.


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17 minutes ago, eggsarascal said:

You skirted around my question, again.  I have a feeling this is old habits dying hard.

 

Can you give me a straight forward answer to the question I asked?

Because it appeared to be a rhetorical question.

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You skirted around my question, again.  I have a feeling this is old habits dying hard.
 
Can you give me a straight forward answer to the question I asked?


I’m not sure what you mean by ‘again’ or ‘old habits’ ? (Maybe I’ve said something to upset you? If I have it wasn’t intentional)

To try and answer your question. I can only really speak for myself. (Which I just did).
Maybe people on the ‘slight right’ of centre are getting fed up of Theresa May’s reluctance to stand up for us regarding negotiation of a Brexit that the electorate voted for, among other things.

You can’t really compare JRM with Diane Abbott. Whether you agree with his opinions or not, he knows his stuff.

I think Sajid Javid will be the next conservative leader , I don’t agree with everything he espouses but he seems like a steady pair of hands. There are a lot worse things that could happen.







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1 hour ago, eggsarascal said:

Why is it that those on the centre left seem to be able to see that people like Corbyn, McDonnell, and Abbot aren't fit for purpose, yet those who claim to be centre right cant see the likes of Boris and JRM also aren't fit for purpose?

I’ll trade you an answer for a question Mr ? if that’s ok. 

 

Both Boris and JRM ARE fit for purpose - that’s your answer as straight as I can make it. 

 

Right here, right now, the necessary attributes of Prime Ministerial leadership necessary to extricate the UK from the EU are those of a wartime leader not a peace time leader. Both Boris & JRM (for different reasons) are the right choice for the challenges of ‘today.’

 

Having spent today at Yad Vashem - The World Holocaust Remembrance Centre, apart from feeling emotionally drained, I’m left completely baffled by the circumstances that have allowed a nation that committed such unspeakable crimes against humanity to have, in less than 80 years - 1 lifetime - rise, once again to such European dominance. 

 

For Mark, maybe best stop thinking in terms of ‘right’ and ‘left’ and start thinking in terms of right and wrong.  

 

 

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10 minutes ago, kevinjohnsonmbe said:

I’ll trade you an answer for a question Mr ? if that’s ok. 

 

Both Boris and JRM ARE fit for purpose - that’s your answer as straight as I can make it. 

 

Right here, right now, the necessary attributes of Prime Ministerial leadership necessary to extricate the UK from the EU are those of a wartime leader not a peace time leader. Both Boris & JRM (for different reasons) are the right choice for the challenges of ‘today.’

 

Having spent today at Yad Vashem - The World Holocaust Remembrance Centre, apart from feeling emotionally drained, I’m left completely baffled by the circumstances that have allowed a nation that committed such unspeakable crimes against humanity to have, in less than 80 years - 1 lifetime - rise, once again to such European dominance. 

 

For Mark, maybe best stop thinking in terms of ‘right’ and ‘left’ and start thinking in terms of right and wrong.  

 

 

you are talking long winded nonsense. 

 

Hope this helps.

 

 

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19 hours ago, TIMON said:

 


I’m not sure what you mean by ‘again’ or ‘old habits’ ? (Maybe I’ve said something to upset you? If I have it wasn’t intentional)

To try and answer your question. I can only really speak for myself. (Which I just did).
Maybe people on the ‘slight right’ of centre are getting fed up of Theresa May’s reluctance to stand up for us regarding negotiation of a Brexit that the electorate voted for, among other things.

You can’t really compare JRM with Diane Abbott. Whether you agree with his opinions or not, he knows his stuff.

I think Sajid Javid will be the next conservative leader , I don’t agree with everything he espouses but he seems like a steady pair of hands. There are a lot worse things that could happen.






 

 

No you haven't upset me. Every time I put a political question to you your answers is, what would Corbyn/the Labour Party do...

 

That isn't an answer to the question being asked.

 

Ignoring Mr johnsons reply, on the grounds I just can't see how anyone can support people that advocate women carrying babies, even if they've been raped, or supporting someone who will lie and cheat on their wife, someone he's supposed to love. What lies will he tell the electorate?

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No you haven't upset me. Every time I put a political question to you your answers is, what would Corbyn/the Labour Party do...
 
That isn't an answer to the question being asked.
 
Ignoring Mr johnsons reply, on the grounds I just can't see how anyone can support people that advocate women carrying babies, even if they've been raped, or supporting someone who will lie and cheat on their wife, someone he's supposed to love. What lies will he tell the electorate?


In the case of Boris, I agree with you. If a person can’t manage his own family with integrity then how can he be trusted to manage a ‘bigger family’. He may be a ‘gifted politician’ but his character obviously has some way to go before it has caught up.

On JRM, those ‘pro-life’ principles are his own personal ones and I believe he’s entitled to hold them, I’m not sure that he was going to try and get them enshrined in law. I think he would make at least a reasonable PM.

My money would be on Sajid Javid. Because of the following reasons.
1.He stood up to May on matters of principle rather than take the easier ‘career enhancing’ choice. It shows he has both integrity and courage.
2. He is a Euro Sceptic but is willing to be pragmatic when it comes to trade. I know this is hypothetical, but I think if he was given a clean slate to negotiate Brexit, I think he would deliver a decent one, or in the case of a ‘no deal’ he could be trusted to steady the ship and navigate us through difficult waters.
3. Despite his Muslim roots he genuinely supports Israel and Jewish people.
4. He came to this country as an immigrant with nothing and worked his way up purely by his own hard graft and fully integrated.
5. He wrote my American mrs a supporting letter so she could get a visa to stay in this country.
6. I think he would be a force for ‘good’ in this country at a time when there is so much hatred and division.

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