Arbtalk 2015 General Election Poll

[Wolfie]

The conservative s have had five years to sort it out

 

 

Labour had 12 years with the country's credit card and you expect the conservatives to pay it of in 5 years - dream on.

 

It's easier to spend it than to save it - Labour will give a very good demonstration of this once again if they regain power.

[s.varty]

 

Im not religious, but god help us if they do return

[agg221]

Firstly do you not feel that nepotism in our society often begins with a public school education?

 

Secondly is it not worth voting for a small party such as The Greens? Yes they may have many inconsistencies in their policy, but, in my opinion, there is much to like too. Would a vote for them at least help, perhaps, to save a deposit and therefore be a vote for the democratic process itself?

 

I think the link between nepotism and a public school education is coincidental. Strictly it isn't nepotism (which is preferential treatment of a relative, originally a nephew) but cronyism, which is favouritism to a friend or associate. I think cronyism tends to occur in many fields, but politics is associated with power and influence, and those with power tend to have a money, and use this to purchase the public school education which builds the links with the establishment which perpetuates the cycle. One of my former administrators used to work in Whitehall - she said that Yes Minister is still an accurate documentary.

 

I agree that a vote for the Greens, or Lib Dems or UKIP for that matter, depending on your preference, might at least save their deposit which makes it worthwhile.

 

Alec

[skyhuck]

Excellent post Alec. I'd take you up on a couple of things.

 

Firstly do you not feel that nepotism in our society often begins with a public school education?

 

Secondly is it not worth voting for a small party such as The Greens? Yes they may have many inconsistencies in their policy, but, in my opinion, there is much to like too. Would a vote for them at least help, perhaps, to save a deposit and therefore be a vote for the democratic process itself?

 

This is a most excellent point

[matelot]

 

Much of the immigration issue stems from this. Figures show that whilst the native British public are a drain on the British public purse (taking approximately 10% more in benefits/services than paying in tax), immigrants are a net gain (EU migrants especially, who contribute much more than they take). It's no wonder so many people want a stop to EU migration when better motivated, harder working people come here, willing to work for less money.

 

 

perhaps you could post some evidence that says immigrants are good for the public purse?

 

the bulk of the evidence that I've seen says that immigrants take out more than they put in.... most EU workers migrants I come across are doing jobs at minimum wage.. do you really think they pay more in tax than they take out?

[Two Acres]

I think the link between nepotism and a public school education is coincidental. Strictly it isn't nepotism (which is preferential treatment of a relative, originally a nephew) but cronyism, which is favouritism to a friend or associate. I think cronyism tends to occur in many fields, but politics is associated with power and influence, and those with power tend to have a money, and use this to purchase the public school education which builds the links with the establishment which perpetuates the cycle. One of my former administrators used to work in Whitehall - she said that Yes Minister is still an accurate documentary.

 

I agree that a vote for the Greens, or Lib Dems or UKIP for that matter, depending on your preference, might at least save their deposit which makes it worthwhile.

 

Alec

 

I was thinking its nepotism because normally it wouldn't be the recipient of the private school education that would be paying for it, that would be a wealthy relative, most likely a parent or grandparent. My dislike of it would be for that reason and because I feel that much talent that doesn't have wealth to support it doens't get the education it deserves and is therefore potentialy lost to society as a whole. It isn't meritocratic

 

I believe we're pretty much in agreement Alec

[RichieR]

Labour had 12 years with the country's credit card and you expect the conservatives to pay it of in 5 years - dream on.

 

It's easier to spend it than to save it - Labour will give a very good demonstration of this once again if they regain power.

Well said .

[Mortimer Firewood]

 

RBS set to pay back last of £163bn loan from taxpayer - Telegraph

 

Googles is your friend

 

Do you believe everything you read on the internet:001_smile:

[Mull]

Googles is your friend

 

 

 

Do you believe everything you read on the internet:001_smile:

 

 

We all get our "facts" from somewhere, usually from a place that agrees with what we think is "right".

Nothing wrong with that as long as we all agree to disagree.

[Mortimer Firewood]

We all get our "facts" from somewhere, usually from a place that agrees with what we think is "right".

Nothing wrong with that as long as we all agree to disagree.

 

That's what we're doing isn't it.

 

Be a bit mundane if you didn't add a bit of sarcasm