Avant 420?

[kevinjohnsonmbe]

Got some pics Peter?

 

Not rough or uneven, but I buried mine up to it's belly a couple of weeks back.... I'd walked the ground first but, in my keenness to crack on, cut a corner and down she went.... That was a PITA!

 

Pic is AFTER I'd made an effort to fill in the ruts...

[aspenarb]

Because they're not forest machines, they're for paddocks, yard duties etc, our industry just adapts them to do what we want.

 

Ive been on a job where 3 of us tipped a small Giant loader 4 times in one day!

And seen the big avant fall on its side after dismounting a curb at the wrong angle/bit of speed.

 

Saw a video today infact, on faceboox of a Norcar (i think) rolling on flat asfalt by simply turning sharply with empty forks raised.

 

The stability of these artic steer loaders is a bit suspect, our Schaffer has been on its side a few times. I think its important to have one guy trained up that knows how to drive one safely, there is nothing wrong with them in competent hands. Problems arise when the unsuspecting get them on the turn with raised forks/bucket on anything other than a level surface.

 

Bob

[Dean Lofthouse]

Here,s my trainee engineer inspecting the innards.

 

For stability, I fill my tyres with water and antifreeze.

 

A totally different animal, but they are rather big tyres and will give some ballast.

 

the second pic is it tipped over till the load touched the floor, the machine was actually wanting to come back down onto its wheels, it still wasn't anywhere near its centre of gravity.

[josharb87]

I've never tipped my multione over in 6-7 years, worked some pretty steep/rough sites too.

 

You live in the fens!!!

[Peter]

Here's a site I was on last week. It's a lot steeper than it looks, 2 metre drop over 8-9 metres.

 

Moved this lot up the bank.

 

 

No way I'd have let anyone else use the machine, especially as there was a 6' drop down to the water.

 

[Mark Bolam]

Everyone thinks it's about the machine.

No one ever talks about the operators training or much more importantly, experience.

See Peters pics? I'd have jumped that ditch, and half the fence on the other side. Whilst trying to get UP the bank.

Skilled machine operation makes saw work look easy IMO.

[kevinjohnsonmbe]

Again, very flat land, why do they never make a vid showing one on uneven ground???

 

 

 

It's a promo video so well choreographed within machine & operator capability but it's unlikely any manufacturer is going to make a "fails" video of the kit they want to sell I guess.

[woodplans]

As mentioned above, its more about the driver than the machine.

 

Granted these little loaders can be unstable on slopes and in the wrong hands, but when used correctly they can achieve quite a lot in a day.

 

I have seen a muppet operator flip a 1.5 tonne mini digger on a curb, whilst a skilled driver can use one on the side of an embankment no problems.

 

Ideal as a yard machine and for larger site works. We are more landscape based so always moving materials around. We have the vermeer s800 for muddy banks, i don't think that will tip over. Ours works on up to 45 degree banks quite regularly with no issues.

[Mick Dempsey]

Peter, is your loader invisible?

[kevinjohnsonmbe]

Peter, is your loader invisible?

 

It's a factory optional extra!