Tools- T25 extra long bit for 1/4 impact driver

[eagleye]

just out of interest what are you using the bits on

and that 1/4" impact driver looks a nice bit of kit for small stuff

[ukminch]

I disagree I've broken quite a few silver line sockets. Always replaced them with a better brand and never snapped one of those, yet.....

[difflock]

Rubbish. A socket or spanner is a simple tool with no moving parts. So long as the steel and the tolerances are within spec then a £2.50 Silverline socket will do exactly the same job as the equivalent size Snap-On socket would for £12.50. Drawing comparisons with cheap chainsaws, full of moving and wearing parts, is a false dichotomy.

 

Snap-On is all marketing, sponsorship and finance for the poor suckers who fall for it.

 

Generally an apparently superficial inspection of the care taken in the design and manufacture, i.e. how the item is sculpted & finished.

can tell a lot.

for spanners avoid big clumsy akward ended ones=cheap rubbish.

toolsteel is cheap, the finish costs money, irrespective of the brand.

Having said that I bes a sucker for Bacho stuff.

And other than buying a reputable brand name, punchs and chisels are a proper "pig in a poke"

[mikerecike]

just out of interest what are you using the bits on

and that 1/4" impact driver looks a nice bit of kit for small stuff

 

Have put up a couple of box profile sheds with it using the hex screw things.Laid several tongue and groove floors-driving 3" screws into plugs/concrete.built the interior of the workshop -6" screws into workbenches and now using it to strip components .hate the thought of having batteries degrade with time. This has a good long lead.Best purchase for years. Diy and small engine stuff.

 

The bits will be used on small engines.a lot of strimmers use t25 and whilst i love my T handle gedore t25 driver once youve used the impact driver its tempting to stick with it.

 

Ps i bought a milwaukee bits set which is quality too.

[WeFixIt]

"Rubbish. A socket or spanner is a simple tool with no moving parts. So long as the steel and the tolerances are within spec then a £2.50 Silverline socket will do exactly the same job as the equivalent size Snap-On socket would for £12.50. Drawing comparisons with cheap chainsaws, full of moving and wearing parts, is a false dichotomy."

 

 

Tool which are made to a budget standard are exactly that!

Cheap spanner stretch with use so hen become a tool no longer in tolerance !

They also brake easier and therefore let you down when you need them most.

 

You learn something every day -

I never knew these had no moving parts in them !!

Ratchets, air tools, battery drills, jack, ratchet screw drives, compressors, generators, retractable air line, welders, angle grinders, chain grinders and I've been using all these tools daily and they don't have moving parts!!!

 

 

 

 

 

Is it a chipper, is it a mower or another broken stump grinder who cares we'll fix it!

[agrimog]

snap on is the biggest con going, and thats a fact, whenever a better manufacturer apeared on the market , they either bought them out or tried to tie them up with copyright crap, there is a multitude of better tool manufacturers out there, and a lot cheaper, snap on arent even the no 1 tool supplier in there home country. most of there power and pneumatics are re-branded from the main manufacturers, and there specialist kit is made for them in the same factories as most other suppliers, they trade on there past history, not on what they produce now......the only reason there are so many garage mechanics using them, and MAC, is that they do credit, with weekly payments, and come round the garages weekly to collect, and try and sell yoiu more crap

[doobin]

"Rubbish. A socket or spanner is a simple tool with no moving parts. So long as the steel and the tolerances are within spec then a £2.50 Silverline socket will do exactly the same job as the equivalent size Snap-On socket would for £12.50. Drawing comparisons with cheap chainsaws, full of moving and wearing parts, is a false dichotomy."

 

 

Tool which are made to a budget standard are exactly that!

 

Someone needs to open their eyes to the world of marketing. Silverline are far from the cheapest crap going.

 

Cheap spanner stretch with use so hen become a tool no longer in tolerance !

They also brake easier and therefore let you down when you need them most.

 

How does it stretch if the steel is to spec, as I said?

 

You learn something every day -

I never knew these had no moving parts in them !!

Ratchets, air tools, battery drills, jack, ratchet screw drives, compressors, generators, retractable air line, welders, angle grinders, chain grinders and I've been using all these tools daily and they don't have moving parts!!!

 

Why did you bother writing that? I said 'a socket or a spanner is a simple tool with no moving parts'

 

 

 

Is it a chipper, is it a mower or another broken stump grinder who cares we'll fix it!

 

 

Agrimog gets it

Edited May 27, 2014 by doobin

[aspenarb]

snap on is the biggest con going, and thats a fact, whenever a better manufacturer apeared on the market , they either bought them out or tried to tie them up with copyright crap, there is a multitude of better tool manufacturers out there, and a lot cheaper, snap on arent even the no 1 tool supplier in there home country. most of there power and pneumatics are re-branded from the main manufacturers, and there specialist kit is made for them in the same factories as most other suppliers, they trade on there past history, not on what they produce now......the only reason there are so many garage mechanics using them, and MAC, is that they do credit, with weekly payments, and come round the garages weekly to collect, and try and sell yoiu more crap

 

I use snap on stuff because its got a lifetime guarantee which the guys in the van stand by with no exception. I am not saying that its the best but when you buy a 1/2" ratchet for £75 and they then replace the guts for free dozens of times over the next 20 years it makes it a very cheap ratchet. Same for spanners ,the torx,allen,ribe and screw driver bits. they seem expensive but mine have all been replaced dozens of times for nowt. I dont think its a good idea to buy stuff like this on the strap but its good value for money if you can stretch to it.

 

Bob

[enrieb]

snap on is the biggest con going, and thats a fact, whenever a better manufacturer apeared on the market , they either bought them out or tried to tie them up with copyright crap, there is a multitude of better tool manufacturers out there, and a lot cheaper, snap on arent even the no 1 tool supplier in there home country. most of there power and pneumatics are re-branded from the main manufacturers, and there specialist kit is made for them in the same factories as most other suppliers, they trade on there past history, not on what they produce now......the only reason there are so many garage mechanics using them, and MAC, is that they do credit, with weekly payments, and come round the garages weekly to collect, and try and sell yoiu more crap

 

I disagree, I worked for a few years remanufacturing turbo chargers at Garret, in the section where old turbos were disassembled we had to use quality tools, to remove old rusted bolts that were practically welded to the turbine housing, the tools were abused beyond any kind of warranty, they had to be to get the job done. We tried all the cheap tool makes, our bosses made us go though this every 6 months or so to see if it would save us money. The snap on half inch spanner was around £20 and would last for at least one month, the other tools like from Cromwell were £3 and would last about two hours. The cromwell tool salesman assured me that the metal they used was the same as snap on, I demonstrated in front of him how long his spanner would last, Red faced he muttered something about sending it back for "metallurgy tests"

 

Sure, we used the cheaper tools for jobs where a tool might be used once every while, but for constant use we needed to use high quality durable ones.

[doobin]

I disagree, I worked for a few years remanufacturing turbo chargers at Garret, in the section where old turbos were disassembled we had to use quality tools, to remove old rusted bolts that were practically welded to the turbine housing, the tools were abused beyond any kind of warranty, they had to be to get the job done. We tried all the cheap tool makes, our bosses made us go though this every 6 months or so to see if it would save us money. The snap on half inch spanner was around £20 and would last for at least one month, the other tools like from Cromwell were £3 and would last about two hours. The cromwell tool salesman assured me that the metal they used was the same as snap on, I demonstrated in front of him how long his spanner would last, Red faced he muttered something about sending it back for "metallurgy tests"

 

Sure, we used the cheaper tools for jobs where a tool might be used once every while, but for constant use we needed to use high quality durable ones.

 

Even a £2.50 13mm spanner is strong enough to shear an M8 stud if you use a length of pipe for leverage. 2 hours? Someone's exaggerating.

 

What were you using a spanner for anyway? A 13mm impact socket on a 1/2" impact wrench puts down far more torque than a spanner and length of pipe will.

 

The Snap-On warranty is fine, but not enough reason to justify the price. All half decent tool manufacturers offer a lifetime warranty. So for less than a third of the price of a Snap-On ratchet, my Halfords Professional ratchet has had the guts replaced for free twice.