Ebay troubles - a Saw I sold recently

[Mark Bolam]

eBay are scum pure and simple.

[dig-dug-dan]

Ebay are con artists. Sold dads top of the range keyboard for mum when he died. Got 800. Buyer never paid, ignored all emails. Ebay did nothing. Said I could re list it for free. How generous. Second time round it made look only 300. Mum was quite upset. I wanted to take the non payer to court, but ebay woukd not supply his details.

my advice. Empty your paypal account, and remove your registered cards so ebay cannot take money.

[TimberCutterDartmoor]

Empty your paypal account, and remove your registered cards so ebay cannot take money.

 

Just done thanks for the advice.

[theflyingscotsman]

Like most things in life these days there are ways that you can watch your back a little here: like selling your saw as 'spares and repairs' in the condition box: if you do this even on working saws there's no come back always list things as no returns in postage section and in listing description.

 

eBay have full access to your messages box even the deleted ones of it the chap was pleased with it they'll know. If not point them in that direction as it's 'evidence'

 

eBay these days for the most part is folk selling Junkers and getting high prices for them ( not that I'm saying the 357 was a junker!)

 

When I sell anything on eBay I keep all the communication through eBay. Make the listing and description so everyone's fully aware that it's second hand and may break so I offer no warranty and List it as spares or repairs....

 

If it IS really dodgey I will take an offer away from eBay and take cash from someone (who has already been pre warned it's not 100%) then there's no come back.

 

I've been stung a few times as a buyer and sadly your eyes your witness and it's always a gamble on eBay..

 

New 357 around 600-700

eBay going for around 250..

 

Sadly your buyer got what he paid for. A good working saw until he likely bug gered it up.

 

Don't feel bad you did your part and he took the gamble.

 

We all know it just takes too little oil and games over..insert more coins!!

 

Most second hand stuff gets sold because it's needing 'upgraded' buy the seller.. Roughly meaning it's heading down the road of needing repaired more often.. If you ain't good at fixing stuff don't buy anything from eBay.

 

With your saw, he took the gamble, tough luck, that's life....don't feel bad and stand your ground....

[treequip]

Ebay are con artists. Sold dads top of the range keyboard for mum when he died. Got 800. Buyer never paid, ignored all emails.

 

Ebay did nothing.

 

Said I could re list it for free. How generous.

 

Second time round it made look only 300

 

. Mum was quite upset. I wanted to take the non payer to court,

 

but ebay woukd not supply his details.

 

my advice. Empty your paypal account, and remove your registered cards so ebay cannot take money.

 

 

Now I have used ebay a lot for buying and selling, I have had my share of success and failure but its a system and you just need to follow the rules.

 

Not that I am trying to defend ebay but.........

 

What did you expect them to do? Its not like they can make him pay up

 

You can protect the value of the item with a reserve

 

You get the buyers details as soon as the hammer falls, just click on send and invoice and it gives you the registered address.

 

Taking your payment details off will make your account pretty much useless.

[gensetsteve]

I bought 4 new bf goodrich at for our truck within weeks a flint went through the side, none in the country. Found a brand new one from a 4x4 dealer on ebay I saved no more than £15 but it was available when it showed up the date was 9 years old. Nearly everything on ebay has a problem and getting vat receipts is a pita. Moral of the story is avoid ebay at all costs.

[Ray1]

Like most things in life these days there are ways that you can watch your back a little here: like selling your saw as 'spares and repairs' in the condition box: if you do this even on working saws there's no come back always list things as no returns in postage section and in listing description.

 

eBay have full access to your messages box even the deleted ones of it the chap was pleased with it they'll know. If not point them in that direction as it's 'evidence'

 

eBay these days for the most part is folk selling Junkers and getting high prices for them ( not that I'm saying the 357 was a junker!)

 

When I sell anything on eBay I keep all the communication through eBay. Make the listing and description so everyone's fully aware that it's second hand and may break so I offer no warranty and List it as spares or repairs....

 

If it IS really dodgey I will take an offer away from eBay and take cash from someone (who has already been pre warned it's not 100%) then there's no come back.

 

I've been stung a few times as a buyer and sadly your eyes your witness and it's always a gamble on eBay..

 

New 357 around 600-700

eBay going for around 250..

 

Sadly your buyer got what he paid for. A good working saw until he likely bug gered it up.

 

Don't feel bad you did your part and he took the gamble.

 

We all know it just takes too little oil and games over..insert more coins!!

 

Most second hand stuff gets sold because it's needing 'upgraded' buy the seller.. Roughly meaning it's heading down the road of needing repaired more often.. If you ain't good at fixing stuff don't buy anything from eBay.

 

With your saw, he took the gamble, tough luck, that's life....don't feel bad and stand your ground....

 

 

Spares or Repairs or sold as seen dosnt stand up on an ebay dispute if the description dosnt include everything thats wrong with it. I had a guy bought a MS440 that the seller said needed a new top end. He brought it to me to repair and the saw was missing the clutch, complete brake mechanism, coil and the inlet manifold. He opened a dispute and got his money back and the seller told him to keep the saw as he couldnt be bothered with any more hassle.

[agg221]

I buy a lot on ebay (very rarely sell) and have been doing so for over 13yrs. I have only opened one dispute, when I bought a no-reserve item at a very low price and the seller didn't ship and ignored all contact. I thought he might (check feedback first) so didn't pay and just needed the dispute to clear the sale off.

 

The system isn't perfect, but in my experience it mostly works. It is certainly better than the 'old days' where a seller could advertise an item, payment was required in advance of shipping (pre-Paypal) and then if they didn't ship there was absolutely nothing you could do about it. I had this happen on an 066 I bought and it was an expensive lesson.

 

I buy things with my eyes open - I pay a price based on what may be wrong so am pleasantly surprised if it isn't. I will arrange courier pick-up, but always check that this is acceptable before buying (I shipped in my 88" bar from the US, which was interesting but fairly straightforward).

 

I think pick-up only and signing an acceptance of the goods being as required is fine. I have bought quite a few saws, in various states of repair, and I am happy to sign a disclaimer that if they are as described on receipt then they are accepted, be that collection in person or by courier. It isn't though, for example, reasonable on the seller's part to describe a saw as 'needing a new top end' when it is also missing the clutch. Whilst you would find this out if you collected, you would still incur travel costs and time, so it's just wasting everybody's time.

 

I am completing our extension at the moment (12'x12', 2-storey + porch, including a kitchen a bathroom). I have saved an enormous amount by buying almost all of it on ebay, everything from bricks, hydraulic lime and even some of the sand, through to the cooker and the bath. No problems at all, other than that when I drove over to Great Yarmouth to pick up the bricks, the bloke had forgotten I was coming and gone out for a long distance bike ride. His dad was in, so I left the trailer and he made his son do all the loading up and bring it over to me, plus he chucked in an extra 100 bricks by way of apology!

 

We have just started selling off some of the old baby things, plus some general junk. It can either keep cluttering up the house, go to the tip which is wasteful, or maybe someone else can get some use out of it. Selling it all on free listing days, 99p starts with no reserve. We will end up with a bit of extra cash for Christmas and a much tidier house. Keeping clothes etc in bundles which keep the weight below thresholds for postage so it's cheaper, and so far no returns have been requested. Bigger items are collection only. All working well so far.

 

It is weighted a bit in favour of the buyer at the moment, but then previously it favoured the seller, so probably the pendulum will gradually swing back to the middle ground.

 

Alec

[dig-dug-dan]

What did you expect them to do? Its not like they can make him pay up

 

ebay are quick enough to take money out of your account and give it back to a buyer if there is a dispute, so they should do the same when someone doesn't pay.

it shouldn't be one rule for one and another for someone else

[treequip]

ebay are quick enough to take money out of your account and give it back to a buyer if there is a dispute, so they should do the same when someone doesn't pay.

it shouldn't be one rule for one and another for someone else

 

They don't give the money back if there is a dispute, they give it back if they find in the other persons favour.

 

A dispute raised against me was a chancer who thought he could take the kit, use it and reject it. eBay found in my favour and didn't give him a penny.

 

The difference is that if something goes through paypal, ebay has the money to give back, if the buyer doesn't pay they don't have the money to give you.