Cleaned out.

[Stubby]

I was actually told by a Chief Inspector when I was younger that if you find someone in your house and you do go to town on them with whatever is at hand...

 

Do what you have to do and then leave the body at the bottom of the stairs or better still, drag them upstairs and then push them back down.

 

The explanation being that you heard a noise and went to investigate and bumped into someone on the landing and a scuffle ensued and they must have fallen. After all it was dark!

 

Not sure if it is true but the guy was a Chief Inspector of Cleveland Constabulary.

 

Any one remember that sketch by Smith and Jones . Tearing around in their squad car ( SD1 Rover ) and smashed it up a bit . got back to the nick and the Sargent looked at and said " what happened here ? " they looked at each other a bit sheepish and said " it fell down the stairs sir "

[skyhuck]

Years ago a friend of a friend of mine had a unit with roller shutter doors on an industrial estate and was ram raided a few times so he put a barrier behind the door made from substantial RSJs and when the thieves came back they were seriously injured. He was charged with attempted manslaughter or something like that and received a suspended sentence and a criminal record for not putting up warning signs about the deterrent and concealing them behind the door.

 

Do you have a link to this?

 

I really don't think its true.

[Timbermcpherson]

I was actually told by a Chief Inspector when I was younger that if you find someone in your house and you do go to town on them with whatever is at hand...

 

Do what you have to do and then leave the body at the bottom of the stairs or better still, drag them upstairs and then push them back down.

 

The explanation being that you heard a noise and went to investigate and bumped into someone on the landing and a scuffle ensued and they must have fallen. After all it was dark!

 

Not sure if it is true but the guy was a Chief Inspector of Cleveland Constabulary.

 

Our police are alot more helpful, I was told to shoot them dead without warning then put a warning shot through the roof afterwards.

 

Fighting someone in your own house hand to hand is hardly a safe option, in fact I think your chances of being the one at the bottom of the stairwell would be 50/50 at best. It worries me greatly that NZ laws seem to be bending more towards the dreadful UK situation when it comes to self defence

[skyhuck]

I have a friend who was a snap-on guy, after repeated robberies, he told the attending officer he was going to buy a gun, the officers advice was "shoot to kill, then theres only one side to the story".

[geoff]

Most people confronted by an intruder will be acting to survive, all this planning to alter evidence after is more likely to get you in the mire with the law, when it comes to violence resulting in serious injury or death, they will have a good hard look.

Anyone unfortunate enough to go through this experience would do well to just leave the resulting evidence well alone if you wish to enjoy your liberty.

[peatff]

Do you have a link to this?

 

I really don't think its true.

 

This was before the internet so there are not going to be links. The friend of mine was on the same estate and you can believe what you wish. He was of the belief that the only reason he didn't get rammed was because the other unit was facing the right way to crash into and his unit would have required a handbrake turn to hit the door.

[skyhuck]

This was before the internet so there are not going to be links. The friend of mine was on the same estate and you can believe what you wish. He was of the belief that the only reason he didn't get rammed was because the other unit was facing the right way to crash into and his unit would have required a handbrake turn to hit the door.

 

But if you think about it any one "ram raiding" a door has no idea whats behind it, there could be a forklift or any other immovable object, to suggest that could constitute "attempted manslaughter" is IMO utterly ridiculous.

[treequip]

But if you think about it any one "ram raiding" a door has no idea whats behind it, there could be a forklift or any other immovable object, to suggest that could constitute "attempted manslaughter" is IMO utterly ridiculous.

 

It would depend how it was constructed, if it were designed to inflict injury it could be described as a mantrap and setting mantraps is definitely illegal.

[kev7937]

When I worked in a jewelers many years ago they fitted anti ram raiding bollards behind the shutters, this was after we were ram raided so bit late really.

[Andy Collins]

When I was turned over the copper suggested that it was a shame that someone hadn't maybe carelessly dropped a bottle by the prised up fence. Apparently a little broken glass can cause a nasty cut and DNA tends to be all over the scene. Of course it would be sheer misfortune if that DNA ended up getting the crim nicked, wouldn't it.