MEWP or Climbing?

[Dean Lofthouse]

Is that court action completed yet and transcript available do you know Dean? Be good to have a read of the findings if they are available for public.

 

Hi Kev, The Verdict was expected late december but was postponed until end of January for some reason, they said they will inform everyone of the verdict by email. I,ll post when it comes through

[clearviewtrees123]

You have stats to back this up of course, either that or it didn't happen:001_rolleyes:

 

 

I didn't say it happened, I said it's far more likely!!!

Let's face it how many moving parts, mechanical parts, electrics etc, I don't think I need to route around looking for facts and figures. My cherry picker has cost me allot more than my climbing kit in failures. In fact my climbing kit has never failed!!!

 

 

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[clearviewtrees123]

Well I owned one for a number of years, so if say my experience is fair.

I've also been climbing and rigging for 9 years, so again fair.

Mewps are either in your drop zone, can't quite reach, objects getting in the way of the boom or slew, when rigging in one you have to be careful of where and how the limb falls in relation to the boom and bucket etc.

In my years on the job my most scary experience has been in a picker with a professional operator.

That said I've had a few scary moments in a tree, but haven't we all.

With a good ground crew and decent rigging gear you can drop far bigger and quicker, than cutting and holding on a MEWP or rigging in one.

I'm sure I'm not the only one to think this.

 

Really !! I'll give you a race any day.

 

Seriously what's your experience of mewps ,you have have to use them day in day out ,and a good mewp opperator is just as valuable as a good climber ,just less fatigued.

 

Your comment about mewp failure is not backed up by the statistics as there are many anchour point / kit failures in the arb industry where as mewp failures are recorded as industry wide including construction and farming.

 

 

 

 

 

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[clearviewtrees123]

Bring on the race!!!!!!!!!

 

 

 

A good climber would wipe the floor with even the best MEWP operator, IME. Many MEWP operators are faster in the cage than the tree, but thats because are not very quick in the tree.

 

 

 

With anchor failure thats down to poor choices, which YOU as a climber chose. IMO when climbing your in far more control.

 

 

 

I hate MEWP's and don't use them, but thats just me

 

 

Totally agree with that mate

 

 

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[treequip]

You are the one who is missing the point. My crane does things I cannot, it lifts huge lumps of timber and puts them neatly in my trailer, sure I occasionally ride the hook, but only when I want the crane there anyway to move some timber, so its not a waste of time or fuel.

 

A MEWP only does the same job as a decent climber and a piece of rope, adding huge costs for no additional return.

 

I think the thread your thinking of was about remove veg from a wall, where climbing was not an option.

 

No Dave that's your point. The point of this thread is that the HSE REQUIRE us to consider other options, that's the point you are missing, or in your case blanking

 

And the thread was the one where you did some rigging

[Taupotreeman]

We average two to three Pin Oak crown lifts a day if we are climbing. 20-30m high with a similar spread. Most overhanging fences, roofs etc. we can run at about 12 average using a MEWP. Agree with most of the comments about having the experience to be able to use a MEWP to its a fullest potential.

[Mr. Squirrel]

Every tool has its advantages, drawbacks and place. Mewps are no different I'd say.

Comparing them as being faster/slower safe/dangerous is totally subjective to the climber or mewp operator on the job, and pretty pointless.

I've subbed for a few firms who use primarily mewps and while they certainly have strengths they also have disadvantages. Far from being a 'macho climber', I simply see a climber as a far more versatile way of completing a job.

[Philip Anderson]

Totally agree with that mate

 

 

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So you hate them and never use them but you picture them on your website?.

A good mewp will give you plenty of outreach / drop zone and reliability and can save you time and money.

Mewps are like religion you've either used a good one and been converted or have had a bad experience and are a non believer .

I agree that a hired in mewp with an operator who is not experienced in tree work can be a recipe for trouble.

[Darrin Turnbull]

Horses for courses.

[kevinjohnsonmbe]

Hi Kev, The Verdict was expected late december but was postponed until end of January for some reason, they said they will inform everyone of the verdict by email. I,ll post when it comes through

 

Nice one, thanks!!