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[Matthew Storrs]

2 hours ago, doobin said:

Sounds OK to me. I was quoted just under 20K for an E20 with three buckets and hitch. You've specced a Hardford powertilt (3k? must be at least) and a few extras. Think carefully about whether you go down this route, or take an S30 hitch and buckets and finance a tilty later, as 3k is a big chunk towards a basic tilty. If you think you might want to do this, then also spec the machine with a second aux, as I have- £535 according to my E20 options list. Haggle with them to throw this in or something.

 

Letting you pay the VAT on installments is why they appear high- guess it's lease purchase rather than hire purchase (I think that's the difference anyhow). Should be fine, but obviously check what the payment is to take ownership at the end of the term. E27 I was quoted the same money as you on (and it's worth every penny!!) so I don't think they're loading your quote.

 

If you can get approved for the finance on that (QUICK! it ends at the end of the month!), I'd add another two years warranty, then get out there and put all your effort into getting work for it. You'll need just two days a month for the next five years at £250-£280 a day to cover the finance and running costs. Find yourself another five days with it and quit your minimum wage job, then you will have time to grow properly.

 

Go for it mate, you won't look back. Finance on something like the above isn't bad or even particularly risky- how can you not find two days a month?? Three tops if you were a desperate fool and went out at under £200 a day. It's when people get cocky and start to take bigger risks that things can go pear shaped, but even then - better to have tried ay?

£30k all in for an E20 sounds a lot to me.... especially if that is meant to be Bobcats 0% finance..... I had a quote for a 2.8t Yanmar which was £23500 plus VAT. And Takeuchis new 2.4t TB225 is similar. 

[doobin]

11 minutes ago, Matthew Storrs said:

£30k all in for an E20 sounds a lot to me.... especially if that is meant to be Bobcats 0% finance..... I had a quote for a 2.8t Yanmar which was £23500 plus VAT. And Takeuchis new 2.4t TB225 is similar. 

Let’s talk ex vat so we all know where we’re at. I had a quote for a Hyundai 2.7t at 22.5k, but by the time you add interest you’re closer to 26k from memory. My e27 was 27k and worth every bit of it. Way better spec than the Hyundai. Oodles of power and just wants to work. Loads of extras as standard too such as extra counterweight. 

 

The E19/E20 is a top end machine. An E17 is a good deal cheaper. 

 

The E27 was what I wanted, and the price was 27k before theyoffered free finance, as I called a year ago and decided it was too much. The free finance meant i could justify it easily

 

E10s fly off the shelf for 14k  as the best  micro going, and you can get free finance on them too. ?

Edited September 26, 2019 by doobin

[Matthew Storrs]

Looking at the E20 though it’s basically based around a 1.8t machine . Same engine,tracks, reach etc. I’d have thought it would be well worth spending the extra £5k to get the E27 instead if it’s that good. Turning up with let’s say a Kubota Kx18-4 @ £18k will do the job that the E20 could do, whereas capability difference jumps massively once your up to 2.8t etc.

[Stihllymok]

Guy Nicholls on LinkedIn: "Tru Plant have a choice of 2018 #bobcat e85 excavators for sale,complete with hyd quick hitch,4 x buckets and air con choice of clean machines, maintaining us having the newest rental fleet in Europe e mail [email protected] or 07850 884667"

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September 26, 2019: Guy Nicholls posted images on LinkedIn

no idea on price but looks ready to roll!

 

[Stihl123]

i can confirm their kit is all mint. they are just down the road from me and i use them quite a bit

he buys loads at once at really high spec, has them for a year and sells them on, so basically sells them on for what he paid for them. they do that with all their gear from tippers to diggers

[doobin]

10 hours ago, Matthew Storrs said:

Looking at the E20 though it’s basically based around a 1.8t machine . Same engine,tracks, reach etc. I’d have thought it would be well worth spending the extra £5k to get the E27 instead if it’s that good. Turning up with let’s say a Kubota Kx18-4 @ £18k will do the job that the E20 could do, whereas capability difference jumps massively once your up to 2.8t etc.

Apparently the E20 is basically a ZTS E19. So that's true enough, but comes down to transportability and access in the end. 2 tone machines are very much an oddball- I'd imagine a Kubota U-20 is a lot more than their basic 1.5t?

 

The E19/20 is a much higher spec than the E17, much the same as the E27 is much higher spec than an E26. Larger engines, more capacity. The E27 has 1km/h faster tracking than the E26. Might not sound like much but tracking requires huge hydraulic capacity. It's the premium machine in the range, they do cheaper ones but not sure if the E17 can come with cab.

 

You can spend even more on an E19/20 if you want, and have a 'comfort pack'- air seat and the boom swing on a porportional rocker. I'd happily put down the extra 1k for that were I buying one. I think Jack might have ticked that option too ?

 

I've bought on price before though- the Hyundai was shortlisted due to price (£14.5k from memory) and a decent demo won me over with it's silky smooth hydraulics. Shame the dealers gave such shit backup, and shame I needed so much backup.

[Matthew Storrs]

Bit of a derail- but what’s going on with plant hire companies at the mo. Hewdens have just gone bust, and WH Bonds (a bigger hire firm round here) have packed it in. Also just heard Eagle plant have gone too. I mean plant hire seems to be a bit of a race to the bottom to me- is it all coming to a head?

 

[monkeybusiness]

21 hours ago, LGP Eddie said:

Andrew Badham Engcon UK for a quote on S type Hitch and Buckets or Aaron at Pladett UK will get you anything SMP or EMA in S type.

 

 

Eddie.

I’ve been waiting for 2 1/2 months for an Engcon quickhitch - apparently it was shipped from Sweden last Tuesday (10 days ago) but still hasn’t arrived with Engcon UK.

It’s either being carried from the factory on foot in a pensioner’s rucksack or someone somewhere is telling fibs...

I ordered a SMP quickhitch from Sweden 3 years ago and it was delivered to my home address in 2 days. 

I needed a part for my Rototilt last week and got it the next day. 

 

 

[Khriss]

..... Thomas Cook airfreighted was it? I kno i am stuck. Dont think the CAA are gonna let me board this smelly wetsuit ? k

[dig-dug-dan]

7 hours ago, Matthew Storrs said:

Bit of a derail- but what’s going on with plant hire companies at the mo. Hewdens have just gone bust, and WH Bonds (a bigger hire firm round here) have packed it in. Also just heard Eagle plant have gone too. I mean plant hire seems to be a bit of a race to the bottom to me- is it all coming to a head?

 

Not sure, but I have seen a trend recently with crusher hires, more domestic users of late than commercial. 

Digger hire seems to be the one thing that has stayed stagnant price wise for the past 20 years ago.

You could hire a 1.5toner for £60 for a day, and that seems to still be the same price now!