Show us your Arb Diggers please.

[LGP Eddie]

I know a few Owner Ops who do the 7.5 tonner and beavertail route with success.

This would require a bit of thought as to the right body if you needed a few attachments with you.

 

No doubt some would Ifor it or the dawn/dusk Tractor run.

 

 

Eddie.

[Stephen Blair]

I looked into the 7.5t beaver tail but the payload wasn’t enough from the standard vehicles I saw.  

  Could always just by a horse box and track it into that, they seem to charge on regardless and a lot of them look hanging heading to the shows over the summer after being pulled out the nettles ?

[difflock]

I got a full 4000kg payload on a Mitisubshi 7500kg beavertail.

put buckets in a 750kg tlr behind,

or a 3500kg trl if you were astute enough to preserve your 12000kg GTW grandfather rights back in 1997 when they moved the licencing goalposts.

I was not unfortunately, which still pisses me off bigtime.

marcus

[openspaceman]

25 minutes ago, difflock said:

put buckets in a 750kg tlr behind,

...and remember the exemption on using a tacho no longer applies

[LGP Eddie]

Must be some mileage in this fifth wheel trailer job for some?

Be nice with the odd attachment up in the neck and puts you in some full fat machines legally.

 

https://m.ebay.co.uk/itm/Fifth-Wheel-Mini-Artic-Gooseneck-Trailer-6m-Bed-Up-to-5300KG-Gross-Weight-on-B-E/112870394526?ul_ref=https://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/710-53481-19255-0/1?ff3=4&pub=5575202480&campid=5337937706&toolid=10039&customid=t%3Aad-u%3A18968&mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.co.uk%2Fitm%2F112870394526&srcrot=710-53481-19255-0&rvr_id=1807524469652&rvr_ts=1dc5d6c41680ab6053d791e0ffc46d94&_mwBanner=1&_rdt=1&ul_noapp=true&pageci=3efa804b-e610-4908-8f89-786f55e2cffd&epid=2083339350

 

 

Eddie.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[dig-dug-dan]

17 minutes ago, LGP Eddie said:

Must be some mileage in this fifth wheel trailer job for some?

Be nice with the odd attachment up in the neck and puts you in some full fat machines legally.

 

https://m.ebay.co.uk/itm/Fifth-Wheel-Mini-Artic-Gooseneck-Trailer-6m-Bed-Up-to-5300KG-Gross-Weight-on-B-E/112870394526?ul_ref=https://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/710-53481-19255-0/1?ff3=4&pub=5575202480&campid=5337937706&toolid=10039&customid=t%3Aad-u%3A18968&mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.co.uk%2Fitm%2F112870394526&srcrot=710-53481-19255-0&rvr_id=1807524469652&rvr_ts=1dc5d6c41680ab6053d791e0ffc46d94&_mwBanner=1&_rdt=1&ul_noapp=true&pageci=3efa804b-e610-4908-8f89-786f55e2cffd&epid=2083339350

 

 

Eddie.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Not sure its actually allowed without still going down tacho route. Worth vosa confirming

[donnk]

6 hours ago, LGP Eddie said:

Must be some mileage in this fifth wheel trailer job for some?

Be nice with the odd attachment up in the neck and puts you in some full fat machines legally.

 

https://m.ebay.co.uk/itm/Fifth-Wheel-Mini-Artic-Gooseneck-Trailer-6m-Bed-Up-to-5300KG-Gross-Weight-on-B-E/112870394526?ul_ref=https://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/710-53481-19255-0/1?ff3=4&pub=5575202480&campid=5337937706&toolid=10039&customid=t%3Aad-u%3A18968&mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.co.uk%2Fitm%2F112870394526&srcrot=710-53481-19255-0&rvr_id=1807524469652&rvr_ts=1dc5d6c41680ab6053d791e0ffc46d94&_mwBanner=1&_rdt=1&ul_noapp=true&pageci=3efa804b-e610-4908-8f89-786f55e2cffd&epid=2083339350

 

 

Eddie.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Mini artic has been done before on here and is good route to tow 15 tons on a B+E car licence. The hard bit is finding a tow vehicle with a plated train weight of 10+ tons that is classed as a car so 3500KG.

 

The only ones are downplated trucks, that advert is very misleading as a navara couldnt pull the skin off a rice pudding let alone 5 tons legally.

 

The one below is pretty crap but at least has 8.5 ton train weight, the chassis is probably 2 ton so by the time a trailer is added should still be a good 5 ton left for cargo. All on a B+E car licence and none of that C1E con/crap.

 

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2006-06-RENAULT-MASCOTT-160-65-156-BHP-SINGLE-CAB-MINI-ARTIC-TRACTOR-UNIT-DI/132615338318?hash=item1ee07d794e:g:vakAAOSwyJpboEp4:rk:4:pf:0

 

This is an extreme example 18.7 ton train weight. And its CAR remember.

 

Edited January 5, 2019 by donnk

[Arboricultured]

Is this 100% for real?

[difflock]

2 hours ago, donnk said:

Mini artic has been done before on here and is good route to tow 15 tons on a B+E car licence. The hard bit is finding a tow vehicle with a plated train weight of 10+ tons that is classed as a car so 3500KG.

 

The only ones are downplated trucks, that advert is very misleading as a navara couldnt pull the skin off a rice pudding let alone 5 tons legally.

 

The one below is pretty crap but at least has 8.5 ton train weight, the chassis is probably 2 ton so by the time a trailer is added should still be a good 5 ton left for cargo. All on a B+E car licence and none of that C1E con/crap.

 

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2006-06-RENAULT-MASCOTT-160-65-156-BHP-SINGLE-CAB-MINI-ARTIC-TRACTOR-UNIT-DI/132615338318?hash=item1ee07d794e:g:vakAAOSwyJpboEp4:rk:4:pf:0

 

This is an extreme example 18.7 ton train weight. And its CAR remember.

 

But is that not a 7490kg veh, i.e.<7500kg but  not <3500kg, so not a car?

Since my Licence states that for B+E the "B" is less than 3500kg

So no good for the B+E classification

So, actually, what veh is it?

[difflock]

https://www.auto123.com/en/new-cars/technical-specs/ford/f-150/2018/4x2-regular-cab-short-bed/xl/

 

and

https://www.hotcars.com/ranking-the-10-toughest-towing-vehicles-that-arent-pickups-and-10-that-are/

 

So does a Ford F-150 count as a car, since it only weighs 2767Kg(Gross Veh Weight), per the 1st link

but can tow 13,200 lbs (=6000Kg exactly) per the 2nd link.

It would need a 5th wheel(or sommat other than a 50mm ball coupling leastwise)

and electric brakes, BUT, despite the earlier posted blurb,

I am not sure that electric brakes are recognised in the UK, yet another gray area

marcus

Edited January 5, 2019 by difflock