joe public walking into cordoned off areas

[d-raittuk]

Best way I reckon is to let people walk where they want and let cars drive where they want. Drop stuff in the road when there's a gap, thank the drivers for stopping. Keep the chipper running and leave a couple of small branches on the pavement at either end of your working area. If people step over them stop dropping stuff till they pass. Most of them will cross over. Thank them again with a pleasant nod and crack on. Have the attitude that you are in everyone else's way. Not the other way round.

 

good point but trying to minimise the risk to them if they want to come into the work area they can get some ppe on like the rest of us and start dragging brash

[TGB]

Not on a road but public can access this land, to trespass through private land.

 

Woodland is sandwiched between landscaped garden with rough pasture and canal towpath. The owners of the house, garden & woodland, (where I with group occasionally work) have to contend daily with mainly dog walkers, lifting their dogs and climbing over locked gates/barbed fence, "So that my dog can enjoy running around a wood or open field, without worry that the dog will chase sheep."

 

We have the usual forestry operations in progress signage. The owners have private signs; while the barb and locked gates scream keep out. You'd imagine the sound of chainsaws and processor would be a forewarning. But the public just won't be told they can't or just don't care about their own safety, the safety of others or the fact that they & their dogs are wandering around someone's private land.

 

We've even had some bloke wander through, looking to site a geo-cache location. I think one of our number had a quiet word with him. While a little way along the track, another one of our number, first pointed out the danger he was in, the fact he was on private land. Then politely told him to sling his hook and not return. He just shrugged and carried on through the wood.

 

Some people are idiots and some are idiots all the time. While some are idiots and rude with it.

[JimM]

Had a woman on Wednesday lift barrier tape and squeeze through a foot wide gap with her dog just to carry on walking on the pavement. In a quiet residential area.

I wonder if we should replace "Tree Cutting" with "Danger of Death. Keep Out."

Next time someone walks through I think I'll ask them to stop so I can take a picture of them next to the sign.

Or hand out "Darwin Award" badges.

[Eddy_t]

You could put up 'Achtung! Minen!' or 'Danger! Land-mines!' and people will still walk straight across, was on a job once, huge limbs falling on the pavement, an old lady stopped by the tape, I yelled 'hang on, wait there' and tried to signal the boss in the tree, she just put an umbrella up and walked straight under the tree, and past a running chipper

 

 

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[agrimog]

first line..signage, 2nd line a tape barrier..., 3rd line, horse tape electric fence, never fails, 40kv jolts the senses into thought quite well, still to meet a punter that didnt get the message....lol

[jarborist]

I used to sometimes figure that people walking through was understandable as most firms have a 'men at work sign' with a picture of a guy digging a hole 'treecutting ' written underneath and all the pedestrian observes is the ground action. They are all so used to unnecessary men at work signs that they carry on through.

 

So I had some signs made - picture of a guy up a tree, 'Keep out - treework overhead' we use these with men at work, tape and cones, often banksmen - conclusion ? absolutely no difference , but at least my conscience is clear.

 

Not long ago, had a pregnant lady with earphones in suddenly pop up right under the branch where the climber was cutting,that put the fear up me - have also had two climbers up trees 'raining' branches down with chainsaws, groundsman sole job monitoring attempted breakins and some guy in suit and case having been told to go round re-appears in the middle of the falling branches - climbers shout at groundsman - groundsman shouts at pedestrian - pedestrian responds - 'its ok, I am in a rush'. nuff said.

 

Am considering the electric fence suggestion.

[Dean Lofthouse]

My dogs are more intelligent than most humans.

 

Last year a cyclist came through my cordon and went out the other side badly shaken and covered in bandages lucky to be alive, unfortunately that is the only way they will learn.

 

Cost me about £2k and my insurance company a good deal more.

 

BTW...contrary to popular belief, whatever you do, whatever measures you have in place, you will still be to blame to some degree. The courts just decide what percentage of the blame is attributed to you and what percentage to the injured party.

 

I very nearly jacked it all in because of it

[Shane]

Peope are creatures of habit. Round our way we are often told things like

'This is a public footpath and I am a member of the public'

'Ive used this path for 60 years and I'm not going to stop because of a few sticks'

 

Dean is spot on, we live in a litigative society and who knows, those who do come through the barriers are the ones who would be looking for a claim.

 

Given that we know what people are like, based on the evidence in this thread we must assume the worst and work accordingly. As a previous poster said people see us as being in their way on their territory. Whatever happens, if the courts are going to support this 'claims for morons' approach we must alloow for it both in pricing and work methods.

 

It's wrong - but it's how it is. Until it changes be extra careful.

[1andyman]

:toilet:Slightly off topicwe were refurbing some public toilets a few years ago. They were closed off with fencing, all of a sudden we heard the fence moveand then this woman ran in, the boy who was working in by the door said were closed, she replied i've got to go and proceeded to have a dump in 1of the toilets with no doors on the cubicle.

So it doesn't matter how well you cordon it off people will bepeople

[APC]

:toilet:Slightly off topicwe were refurbing some public toilets a few years ago. They were closed off with fencing, all of a sudden we heard the fence moveand then this woman ran in, the boy who was working in by the door said were closed, she replied i've got to go and proceeded to have a dump in 1of the toilets with no doors on the cubicle.

So it doesn't matter how well you cordon it off people will bepeople

 

 

we know that's a lie as women don't poo