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what about the pulp mills they are getting worried espicaly with Balcas and E.On Steven's Croft, ect as they are strugling to get pulp, due to this extra dimand for biomass use.

 

Edit: world wide wood is over half of all the wood is harvested for fuel, but in the uk this was not the case, if we do not go to carfully this extra demand for pulp type wood could have a demtral efect on the market,

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In over last 20+ years I have had all manner of deluded individuals, all convinced their tree was worth a fortune.

 

Before the internet got hold of it the rumour was propagated by” my mate down the pub” and other such knowledgeable folk.

 

There might be a few more confused punters about now or it might just be the immediacy of the internet that gives that appearance.

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Like any other commodity if there is a market for it people will try and sell what they believe has value weather real or imagined. I have actually sold palm trees for my clients in the past, acting as a broker. My client was happy and so was the buyer. It was a win win, however most people have no idea about the value of something hence the disappointment and or unusual offers for tree work and removal of trunks. I guess they don't know unless they ask?. Some clients need more training than others.

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i was speeking to a one of the fc foresters from Aberdeenshire in march and they said they could sell most of wood for biomass but they were having to set some to the side to sell it to the mill cheeper as they would not have been able to cover there costs. this extra demand is good as it is making it more viable to thinn and start to manage them again for the small producer.

 

Most do not realise the shear cost of forestry Oprations and cost per tree letlone it being a one off. i would tell them that timber is about £30 a tone on the road side and the cost to do that in cost about £14 a tone harvestest and extract on a easy site using a harvester costing £200000+ and a forwder costing about the same, and to make it pay you have to be harvesting about 70 trees an hour. so they will only make about £15 tone, now thats why we have to charge to take down there trees, and they are mostly such pore qulatiy timber they only good for biomass or pulp or to little volume so they are worth worthless any way so you still have all your costs,

ps i hope my figures are not to far out

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You can probably blame a lot of this forums “firewood” members and the existence of this forum on the net for this.

 

So really the blame is on YOU and others like you and the lady and gent you ridicule are really correct and have there heads screwed on unlike some of the firewood who are over inflating firewood cost because of the business practises they undertake to buy wood at silly prices. :001_tt2:

 

Firstly I must thank b101 for offering to pay alot more tax so I can sit at home on the dole. But as I have some pride a mortgage and children I am going to continue to work. If that means buying cordwood and causing the price to increase I am sorry.

 

The reason wood has increased is.

 

Supply and demand

The tory government has increased the tax on fsc sourced wood 3 fold

The cost to extract, transport and process has doubled in the last 5 years

The demand for power stations is making the resource scarce.

 

The idea a few people cutting wood for wood burners and open fires is driving up the price is hilarious

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I've been fuelling my wood burner for the last six years on free arb waste, often dropped on my drive by the local lads. This year? Not a hope. They are selling every scrap they can and I think firewood prices commanded here are on a par, if not more than, the equivalent gas price. Time to buy that bit of Welsh forest perhaps!

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