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Same as Stihl then- oh well - it must be catching

Didn't mean to upset- forget it and my apologies. My comments on meglomania still stand. If you ever watched Rome on TV you'll empathise. It's political.

Steve. You run a great website and I applaud your charitable giving efforts. But, it was obvious to all that you sided with stihls position and that was against your members interests. I can't say it any other way- we all need a check now and then:001_rolleyes:

will all those who stood by stihl in their decision now stand up and say sorry. It was the policy of a meglomaniac. Glad they got taught a lesson. We've spent £4.99 on stihl products since the embargo. About £3000 in the 6 months up to it.

They taste like well.... sex:thumbup1: hence the high price It's OK it's paleo

I wonder who challenged them- obviously not the dealers

break down your bill- most companies don't care how you itemise so put £100 labour, £350 materials Pay 20% on the labour and either set it against PAYE or reclaim at the end of the year on your tax form. Somehow, I think you will be paying tax this year especially if it carries on like this.

Is it only Huskies that do this? Someone I work with had this issue and the dealer said the mix was too oily even though we use measuring squirters. Seized up couldn't fix. Scrap

What do you think about doing it on a mountain bike (1980's marin) on road? I've been asked if I want to team up with a born again biker I'm fine on the flat but hate hills/ headwinds. Perhaps I just need to get fitter

Rich- I'm sure you read or know my situation. Trust the health professionals and massive recent improvements in treatment will get you through. Coupled with a positive attitude I'm sure. I'll be in touch. Talking to others who have been through it really does help.

Simply treemendous:001_smile:

we;ve probably all done 'reductions' we wouldn't have been proud of and sometimes it's the only way. I'm sure you are chuffed to have climbed that tree and been able to reach all the branches. Sometimes you are continuing someone elses work and sometimes you are at the mercy of cyclical maintenance or customer specifications. but it looks awful 2 years down the line. Not at all like a free growing tree. Best to take the advice given on here - it will make you a better arborist. Have a chat with your boss/ read some books on the subject and read through this forum and you'll start to understand. Plus I won't have to drive round all winter cringing at 1 year regrowth on basin cut trees.

Thats nicer:thumbup1:

that sounds illegal- i mean the bit about loyalty

I've been hearing this about zero hours contracts I've never offered them but my son who works on the ferries loves them. You give the employer days you can work and he gives you work if it is available. Whats not to like. Full years holiday pay even though he might have only worked 8 weeks. Whats the downside?

yup- strawberry tree Arbutus unedo

I sometimes wonder what makes people tick- you'd think morally the tree owner would be liable but it appears morally doesn't come into law.

Though the chimney sweep may have been incompetent and therefore not done the job correctly. It's no wonder people find law interesting. So many possible outcomes

Just read up on the Wagon Mound The boat leaked fuel oil which mixed with cotton and a welding spark burned down the warf and a few boats. Who was to blame- I can't really work it out. Words like appellants and I'm confused. Did the judge say that the engineer should have known the likely outcome- oil on water still flammable. Not sure how this relates to this specific tree works though.

If you are paying £10 per hour you need to charge £30 plus a bit. You don't have to pay sick pay at normal rates (make sure this is mentioned in the contract) but get involved in SSP. Not much and government pays you back. lets face it, you'll be making NI contributions on top of the employees contributions so it's nice to get something back. You'd be surprised how healthy people are when they don't have paid days for being 'poorly'. Personally, I think it makes them better people.

Thanks everyone for getting involved. I think the insurance company is trying it on. That will be tested. The owner is a largish firm who access their compound from a different road. My gut feeling is that they should have taken responsibility though just as in the case of an car accident- don't say sorry is the advice as it is the insurance company ultimately who pay out. So- the owner can only do what he is advised by insurers if he expects them to foot any bills. In which case he is just acting on advice and not able to do as his gut feeling would guide him. I understand now that the housing association will be forwarding our invoice to the owner. We will get paid regardless though it will be interesting to hear what happens. I just felt for the tennant, a nice bloke (judged by the mugs of tea brought out while we were there)

Thats the issue The owner in my opinion has done less than I would expect. We have cleared up but it leaves me thinking- how would I feel if I was the person who had the tree fall across my property. Personally, I would expect the tree owner to clear up his mess but this situation suggests that is not recommended and all he has to do is 'make safe'. For the record- we will get paid regardless but I'm just feeling the tree owner should bear more responsibility.

What would you deem 'make safe level' I'm thinking to be safe the tree needs cutting back to the boundary to prevent possible breaking and falling into the garden. Plus arisings removed. The owner seems to have been advised by his insurers to just cut off the branches that were catching the wind. Leaving all arisings in the tennants garden and outside. Bit of a cowboy job though I guess as it was Xmas eve in the wind the guys who did the initial works were being pulled from every direction and didn't have time to clear up. I'm going to leave the battle to the housing association but would like to know what people on here think or have experience of so I am better prepared next time it happens.

Just to clarify It was a large leylandii It damaged the tree owners fence but came down across the tennants property missing the house by inches and totally blocking the upstairs windows ending up at an angle of 45 degrees. The owner of the tree got a tree gang in to take out some lower branches to ' reduce liklihood of further movement' - you might call it emergency work. The tennant was left with a garden full of conifer plus a large pile outside in the road. The tree owner then refused to do any more work saying his insurance company had told him to leave it as it was an act of God and his liability stopped there. We were asked to remove the remaining overhanging- I know, with no immediate anchor point, not for the faint hearted. We gave the big wood back to the owner of the tree. The housing association are now threatening to send the bill to the tree owner but I think they may just have to pay up. I've never come across this before. Usually the tree owner is only too happy to get the job done fully and pay the bill if only to foster good neighbour relations.