B+E training

[AHPP]

Your letter is some what contradictory.

 

You are arguing that there are untrained people driving large vehicles, but then say you think the entitlement should have remained

 

I can see where you're coming from but the angle I was pushing hardest was why is it one rule for one and another rule for another.

 

In terms of qualification, training etc then I am a fan of people getting on with it. The delights of natural order and the free market economy (manifested in insurance companies and training providers) will sort out the majority of problems.

[SAM66S]

I see it as saying they may as well carried on as theres loads of numpties allowed to drive hgv's who have no idea...our mothers. and plenty who do have a good head on their shoulders who aren't allowed to, so drive around in chronically overloaded 3.5 tonners and pull trailers they're not allowed ot hoping no one will notice...which they usually don't but thats not the point.

 

That was the whole point of the law changing to stop those sort of people being able being able to do that

[Billy]

That was the whole point of the law changing to stop those sort of people being able being able to do that

Well, they're already there so they may as well carry on, theres not much in it between a 7.5t truck and a LWB Sprinter or similar, just abit wider...weight makes very little difference. I'm just annoyed i am gonna ahev to fork out to move any major weight:thumbdown:

[skyhuck]

Well, they're already there so they may as well carry on, theres not much in it between a 7.5t truck and a LWB Sprinter or similar, just abit wider...weight makes very little difference. I'm just annoyed i am gonna ahev to fork out to move any major weight:thumbdown:

 

They only way people will not be doing it in 40 years time was to make the change when they did.

 

Weight makes huge difference!!!!!!

 

It totally changes the amount of stopping distance required and will cause considerably more damage upon impact.

[carlos]

i think that is a good thing being limeted to 3.5 ton on a b lisecne( annoying too)

think back to when you passed your car test..... then next day into a fully loaded 7.5ton truck big jump up imo.

carl

[Billy]

They only way people will not be doing it in 40 years time was to make the change when they did.

 

Weight makes huge difference!!!!!!

 

It totally changes the amount of stopping distance required and will cause considerably more damage upon impact.

ok well, no difference a little common sense doesn't adjust for automaticaly. It would be rediculous to drive fast and stop short in freighted up vehicles wether they be 3.5t or 30+. My point is its essentially the same, however i must reluctantly agree that it makes sense to have another test for trailers as it takes a bit of practice to learn to back them up right...but i;d still rather they let people try their luck as reversing is rarely done in places where it puts many people at risk.

[Ben Tidey]

did you find a trainer? my old man runs a lgv driver training company he does B+E he can be found at, Macleod Training he is based in West Sussex.

[Chris Sheppard]

Slight derail, but curious what the circumstances would be for me to need a tachograph for trailer towing? For instance, would towing 2.6 tonnes of trailer and timber with a total train weight of in excess of 5t require it?

 

Depends how far from base you would be to start with - sub 50km and I think you'd fall under an exemption.

[mark_goldfinch]

Slight derail, but curious what the circumstances would be for me to need a tachograph for trailer towing? For instance, would towing 2.6 tonnes of trailer and timber with a total train weight of in excess of 5t require it?

 

hi mate, i have heard a few different things about this one being you dont need a tacho if you are within twelve miles of your yard, not sure how much truth there is in this. and the other is you do need a tacho for any gvw over 3.5 tons for commercial use. but saying that we dont have a tacho in our van and it is more often or not over 3.5ton with a trailer.

[scbk]

If you do have a tacho, what are the implications of it? What needs to be submitted and what are the costs?

 

Best off with an analogue one as otherwise you have to apply for a card, though newer vehicles are supposed to have digital

 

Once it's fitted the only costs on an analogue tacho is a calibration every 2 years (£30/£40), and a fiver for a pack of 100 discs