Kids can't fix things.

[ging]

fair dues Dean knowledge like that cant be learnt, imo. did you come across that yourself or were you shown/told by an older peer?

[Dean Lofthouse]

fair dues Dean knowledge like that cant be learnt, imo. did you come across that yourself or were you shown/told by an older peer?

 

Learnt everything myself.

 

Most things are just logic. The problem with todays mechanics is they dont repair, they just replace.

 

Same thing again, they told me my throttle pedal was goosed and was £500 to replace. I had a look and a micro switch needed adjusting, 20 seconds fixed

 

Just a thirst for knowledge is what most people need

[Mesterh]

I think the problem is that stuff is cheaper to replace than fix.

 

This is probably partly to with the fact that there are more fitters than mechanics.

 

You can get so many parts next day its not worth the time trying to repair them.

 

I'm just a tight bugger so I fix rather than replace myself.

 

But thats me repairing it not someone else.

[RobRainford]

Just a thirst for knowledge is what most people need

 

 

exactly, luckily i have one of those! My last one broke so i replaced it

 

As easy it as it can be to replace things and sometimes be cheaper, things like yovue mentioned dean, mechanics are nothing without a computer now. Go to an old school mechanic the only computer they have is in the office for surfing the net and ordering parts!

 

Go into new garages they have all sorts set up for plugging into posh cars that can tell you everything.

 

The only problem with computers is they are binary, its broken or not, its not faulty or loose or intermittent.

[csservices]

i can agree with people saying that this generation, which is my generation, is growing up educated but not skilled. People have to choose a skill now, years ago on farms it was pre-determined almost

 

i have two friends who are learning a trade, 6 others who are doing science and math degrees, another one is doing game keeping and im doing arb. the view seems to be 'ill get a degree that needs loads of work and study time and is expensive and ill be earning big money straight away' but thats the ideal, the reality is most people fresh out of uni at 20/21/22 with pieces of paper with qualifications written on them is all they have to show for those 3, 4 or more years of studying. Whereas i can stand now with NPTC and CSCS cards and get earn money in more places than they would be able to. They will tend to manage to get bar work or something thats pretty run-of-the-mill, im happy to be where i am right now. We all make our own choices to do what we want to in life. I just hope im making all the right ones for the next year or two to get me set properly.

 

I've got three stepsons, 18,17 and 15, two want to go into media and the youngest into catering and the number of times I've come back home and found them in the dark because they didnt know how to change a light bulb or flick the trip back on is unreal, even when I've showed them it goes in one ear and out the other, we've tried to persuade the eldest to learn a trade first before going to uni to do media so he's got a fall back but he wont listen to us or any of grandparents he even got offered a guaranteed place on an engineering apprenticeship on the railways by his physics teacher at school, starting at salary of £25k and he turned it down:001_cool: Theres no helping some folk, when it comes the day that thiers nobody to do the practical manual jobs then it might start to sink in

[RobRainford]

I've got three stepsons, 18,17 and 15, two want to go into media and the youngest into catering and the number of times I've come back home and found them in the dark because they didnt know how to change a light bulb or flick the trip back on is unreal, even when I've showed them it goes in one ear and out the other, we've tried to persuade the eldest to learn a trade first before going to uni to do media so he's got a fall back but he wont listen to us or any of grandparents he even got offered a guaranteed place on an engineering apprenticeship on the railways by his physics teacher at school, starting at salary of £25k and he turned it down:001_cool: Theres no helping some folk, when it comes the day that thiers nobody to do the practical manual jobs then it might start to sink in

 

 

When the eldest goes to uni and you talk to him about it, i can guarantee that there will be a lot of conversation about socialising. Theres nothing wrong with going out and ejoying yourself but people choose to go to uni for that one reason.

 

Its quite shocking that he turned down a salary of 25k as a starting wage, going form the media course he would probably be expecting to get right up into somewhere on at least 30k? That seems to be the mentality of most i think!

 

My parents divorced in the last 6 months, they split up a year and a half before that, being at the age where i understand things more like this it hit me hard and it took me a long time to be able to cope with it. I had to do something to keep my mind off things, i started cooking for myself and my girlfriend, now i live with my dad and he is out a lot, so im independant and will fix things myself.

 

My mind likes to work problems out logically, so trying to fix something is always a good thing to do for me if i have enough time, but as soon as it doesnt go my way, i do something else out of fustration sometimes.

[csservices]

When the eldest goes to uni and you talk to him about it, i can guarantee that there will be a lot of conversation about socialising. Theres nothing wrong with going out and ejoying yourself but people choose to go to uni for that one reason.

 

Its quite shocking that he turned down a salary of 25k as a starting wage, going form the media course he would probably be expecting to get right up into somewhere on at least 30k? That seems to be the mentality of most i think!

 

My parents divorced in the last 6 months, they split up a year and a half before that, being at the age where i understand things more like this it hit me hard and it took me a long time to be able to cope with it. I had to do something to keep my mind off things, i started cooking for myself and my girlfriend, now i live with my dad and he is out a lot, so im independant and will fix things myself.

 

My mind likes to work problems out logically, so trying to fix something is always a good thing to do for me if i have enough time, but as soon as it doesnt go my way, i do something else out of fustration sometimes.

 

Good on you mate best way to learn, if you don't try you don't find out, trouble with our 3 is they listen to anybody except them that knows, we pointed out to eldest recently about chances of getting straight into a job in media and his response was well in such and such magazine there were 2 jobs for camera men, one in london and one in manchester, funily enough he didnt have an answer when we asked if on the off chance you could walk into a job like that, how exactly are you going to pay to live where the work is til your first pay cheque comes through don't get me wrong thier none of them stupid, just completely blind to common sense and the ways of the world

[RobRainford]

Good on you mate best way to learn, if you don't try you don't find out, trouble with our 3 is they listen to anybody except them that knows, we pointed out to eldest recently about chances of getting straight into a job in media and his response was well in such and such magazine there were 2 jobs for camera men, one in london and one in manchester, funily enough he didnt have an answer when we asked if on the off chance you could walk into a job like that, how exactly are you going to pay to live where the work is til your first pay cheque comes through don't get me wrong thier none of them stupid, just completely blind to common sense and the ways of the world

 

 

common sense seems to be a gift nowadays!

 

There are always jobs going in any career, but a fresh student isnt going to have a chance, i myself do look around and see jobs going but they are always for tree officers and head climbers, i have enough sense to know that ill not be able to fulfill that job at my current stage, but it would be nice to be able to some day.

 

I seem to fall into a stereotype, a student with fresh qualifications and no skills, most ofmy other peers will likely have little work over the summer, whereas i am managing fairly regular work, im still training as i have a lot to learn, but doing that i am putting myself out of that sterortype, which can only be seen. I can phone companies up and ask for any basic work and they ask what i have but they never get back to me, it makes it a bit unfair.

 

People say if it aint broke dont fix it, but if you want to learn, break it!

[PeteB]

I recently wanted a seal kit for a brake cylinder and a metalastik suspension bush and was told "they don't do seal kits anymore mate and you'll have to buy the complete shock absorber". Part of the litigious society I presume.

 

My first experience ever in a MetalWork Class was "Change that square bar round" then "Change that round bar square" My sons school don't do metalwork but have a fabulous computer suit!

[testcricket01]

my dad isnt interested at all in anything practical hes useless. he managed to assemble a flat pack bbq upside down. whereas my self ive been building go karts, doing welding and wood work etc since i was about 4. started off with my grandad amazing to see his generation and what they can do out of what now a days is called total junk. its all to do with trying and failing and trying again and again, id never taken a engine apart before but then my 3120xp piston blew up so i took it apart my self cleaned all bits of piston outta crank and exhaust, salvaged wat i could ordered the new parts fixed it all. i dont see whats the harm in trying if you get in a mess take it to the shop they will sort it. my motorbike i took it all to bits fitted all new brake lines and engine hoses new exhaust, new body, new lights endless list. at end of the day if you dont try you wont sucede how i look at it.