Welcome back to the EU!

[Tree monkey 1682]

27 minutes ago, sime42 said:

Call that a fishing harbour Norway?! And Brixham is tiny in comparison to Newlyn.

 

Cadbury moving to Europe is due to the company being taken over by Kraft and then Mondelez. Both big American/international food and drink companies. They and others like them are responsible for the disastrous food landscape in this country. Nothing to do with EU, or immigrants. Their food is generally far healthier, (and tastier) than ours. I say ours, but what is British food these days? It's KFC, pizza, Subway or any of the other crap pushed out by the likes of Uber or Just Eat. We've lost our traditional fayre, but not due to immigrants.

 

Aspartame, yeah it's the devil's nectar. Ban it henceforth

 

 

Humour me, then, so what did the Indians bring with them, the Italians and then the americans? 

The gumph regarding kraft... Hate to say it but the EU gave them a grant before with left the EU, that was before kraft took them over.... way before, but if you valued the product and workforce  why don't u build a factory on the outskirts of bham? You have the product and the workforce....... 

As goes for rubbish food, no one makes you eat "rubbish food" nothing wrong with any food as long as u burn it off and eat it moderation. 

If your loosely trying to make a link between poverty,  fast food obesity and type 2 diabetes.... That's lame.. 

People in this country dont know what poverty is. 

It's skewed proities and dire lifestyle choices. 

Since when is sky TV classed as a necessity? 

That's the difference, coming from someone who's done bread and jam diet, knocked on people's doors in stoke to make a bit more cash... And has had to walk or run 7 miles each way to work.... Then do a manual job until work picked up.... 

[Mike Hill]

Most Norwegian fishing boats have their own dock,they may meet a factory ship at sea or drop into many of the fish factories along the coast.

 

I have never heard anywhere being described as a " main fishing harbour".

 

Where did you visit?

[Stubby]

18 minutes ago, Tree monkey 1682 said:

Humour me, then, so what did the Indians bring with them, the Italians and then the americans? 

The gumph regarding kraft... Hate to say it but the EU gave them a grant before with left the EU, that was before kraft took them over.... way before, but if you valued the product and workforce  why don't u build a factory on the outskirts of bham? You have the product and the workforce....... 

As goes for rubbish food, no one makes you eat "rubbish food" nothing wrong with any food as long as u burn it off and eat it moderation. 

If your loosely trying to make a link between poverty,  fast food obesity and type 2 diabetes.... That's lame.. 

People in this country dont know what poverty is. 

It's skewed proities and dire lifestyle choices. 

Since when is sky TV classed as a necessity? 

That's the difference, coming from someone who's done bread and jam diet, knocked on people's doors in stoke to make a bit more cash... And has had to walk or run 7 miles each way to work.... Then do a manual job until work picked up.... 

You try telling that to the youth of today , They won't believe you .....

[Tree monkey 1682]

7 minutes ago, Mike Hill said:

Most Norwegian fishing boats have their own dock,they may meet a factory ship at sea or drop into many of the fish factories along the coast.

 

I have never heard anywhere being described as a " main fishing harbour".

 

Where did you visit?

I did a cruise of the Norwegian fjords, a native on the tour said the port we pulled into said "this is norways second biggest fish processing port" it's was tiny not that impressive in the way of ports or fish processing plants bearing in mind norways out of the EU and has heavy involvement in fishing... But il ask the other half when she gets in, because although I visited the place I can't remember where it was.... Bar the was an echo dealership there! 

[sime42]

1 hour ago, Tree monkey 1682 said:

Humour me, then, so what did the Indians bring with them, the Italians and then the americans? 

The gumph regarding kraft... Hate to say it but the EU gave them a grant before with left the EU, that was before kraft took them over.... way before, but if you valued the product and workforce  why don't u build a factory on the outskirts of bham? You have the product and the workforce....... 

As goes for rubbish food, no one makes you eat "rubbish food" nothing wrong with any food as long as u burn it off and eat it moderation. 

If your loosely trying to make a link between poverty,  fast food obesity and type 2 diabetes.... That's lame.. 

People in this country dont know what poverty is. 

It's skewed proities and dire lifestyle choices. 

Since when is sky TV classed as a necessity? 

That's the difference, coming from someone who's done bread and jam diet, knocked on people's doors in stoke to make a bit more cash... And has had to walk or run 7 miles each way to work.... Then do a manual job until work picked up.... 

 

Lots to go at there. Again, some I agree with, some not. 

 

Indians - good food, Italians - good food, Americans - bad food. American multinational companies - shit "food". 

 

I'm bemused by the Cadbury gumph. Suffice to say that the EU did not force them to relocate to Europe. The owners of the company were ultimately responsible, be they British or American at the time. They would indeed have been far better to build a new factory in south Bham. The area was desperate for new employment after Rover collapsed at Longbridge, it still suffers now.

 

There is absolutely a link between poverty, fast food, obesity and type 2 diabetes. Everything in moderation yes, but that doesn't happen in a lot of cases. No-one can subsist healthily on a diet of exclusively fast and ultra processed food. Regardless of how much they exercise.

 

There certainly are far too many skewed priorities and dire lifestyle choices. Sky TV, Netflix or the latest phone are not necessities. 

 

Walked or ran 14 miles per day, on top of a day of manual labour? Fair play to you. 

[Tree monkey 1682]

28 minutes ago, sime42 said:

 

Lots to go at there. Again, some I agree with, some not. 

 

Indians - good food, Italians - good food, Americans - bad food. American multinational companies - shit "food". 

 

I'm bemused by the Cadbury gumph. Suffice to say that the EU did not force them to relocate to Europe. The owners of the company were ultimately responsible, be they British or American at the time. They would indeed have been far better to build a new factory in south Bham. The area was desperate for new employment after Rover collapsed at Longbridge, it still suffers now.

 

There is absolutely a link between poverty, fast food, obesity and type 2 diabetes. Everything in moderation yes, but that doesn't happen in a lot of cases. No-one can subsist healthily on a diet of exclusively fast and ultra processed food. Regardless of how much they exercise.

 

There certainly are far too many skewed priorities and dire lifestyle choices. Sky TV, Netflix or the latest phone are not necessities. 

 

Walked or ran 14 miles per day, on top of a day of manual labour? Fair play to you. 

Rover cars went tits up due to people getting greedy and wanting more money for relatively unskilled work, plus also the money they were on was good money in the mid 90s, just silly enough to follow a trade union. 

Type two, poor food or poor food choices is poverty, but u can be poor but still eat well, but u can't fix poor lifestyle choices.... Thes always hope, maybe it's my mind set.. 

And yes it was 2003, I lived on my own and the was zero work around, wether it was arboriculture, landscaping, amenity horticulture, site work or anything to do with equestrian work... 

So i had to cycle or run to work, live off a £5er a week for food... Until I got paid... It was hard because if you were lone parent, single mom, the was help, single male and u miss out on everything. And the were no food banks then,  no luxuries like make up, mobile phones, hair dye, painted nails (not that I'm into that) but an example of skewed priorities. 

Also the sky TV thing was a local vicar was telling me about his conversation with adult social services when running a food bank!!!!! 

[devon TWiG]

4 hours ago, sime42 said:

Call that a fishing harbour Norway?! And Brixham is tiny in comparison to Newlyn.

 

Cadbury moving to Europe is due to the company being taken over by Kraft and then Mondelez. Both big American/international food and drink companies. They and others like them are responsible for the disastrous food landscape in this country. Nothing to do with EU, or immigrants. Their food is generally far healthier, (and tastier) than ours. I say ours, but what is British food these days? It's KFC, pizza, Subway or any of the other crap pushed out by the likes of Uber or Just Eat. We've lost our traditional fayre, but not due to immigrants.

 

Aspartame, yeah it's the devil's nectar. Ban it henceforth

 

 

Brixham is NOT tiny compared to Newlyn , in fact it lands the greatest catch by value , due  particularly to  shellfish , however at the moment there appears to be an Octopus invasion causing issues , however approx 5 tons a day are being landed at Brixham  for sale on to Europe because we don't eat them !..... Did you know that Harrods has a greater turnover than the UK fishing industry ???

[Tree monkey 1682]

1 hour ago, devon TWiG said:

Brixham is NOT tiny compared to Newlyn , in fact it lands the greatest catch by value , due  particularly to  shellfish , however at the moment there appears to be an Octopus invasion causing issues , however approx 5 tons a day are being landed at Brixham  for sale on to Europe because we don't eat them !..... Did you know that Harrods has a greater turnover than the UK fishing industry ???

Didn't mention newlyn

I was comparing and saying where I pulled into Norway the second biggest port/processing area  was something smaller than thought considering Norway is so into its fish, and the whole thing about it being out of the EU with a good deal, yet we had a good fishing fleet and we've been fkd over again. 

[sime42]

1 hour ago, devon TWiG said:

Brixham is NOT tiny compared to Newlyn , in fact it lands the greatest catch by value , due  particularly to  shellfish , however at the moment there appears to be an Octopus invasion causing issues , however approx 5 tons a day are being landed at Brixham  for sale on to Europe because we don't eat them !..... Did you know that Harrods has a greater turnover than the UK fishing industry ???

 

Fair enough, I stand corrected. Thanks. Newlyn looks and feels bigger, but I had no ideas of the values involved. Is it Brixham where they also land a large volume of Brown Crab? Which then gets stuck on a lorry up to Heathrow, and flown straight over to China to be sold for a fortune. Or maybe that was Salcombe.

 

Crazy stat about Harrods.

[sime42]

2 hours ago, Tree monkey 1682 said:

Rover cars went tits up due to people getting greedy and wanting more money for relatively unskilled work, plus also the money they were on was good money in the mid 90s, just silly enough to follow a trade union. 

Type two, poor food or poor food choices is poverty, but u can be poor but still eat well, but u can't fix poor lifestyle choices.... Thes always hope, maybe it's my mind set.. 

And yes it was 2003, I lived on my own and the was zero work around, wether it was arboriculture, landscaping, amenity horticulture, site work or anything to do with equestrian work... 

So i had to cycle or run to work, live off a £5er a week for food... Until I got paid... It was hard because if you were lone parent, single mom, the was help, single male and u miss out on everything. And the were no food banks then,  no luxuries like make up, mobile phones, hair dye, painted nails (not that I'm into that) but an example of skewed priorities. 

Also the sky TV thing was a local vicar was telling me about his conversation with adult social services when running a food bank!!!!! 

 

I heard a nice little programme about Rover a few weeks back.

 

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