Greater payload

[AHPP]

15 minutes ago, Peter 1955 said:

I was told of a goods vehicle that left its yard legally in the morning, tipped part of its load, and was then over on an axle, despite having less weight on board. 

 

4 hours ago, aspenarb said:

 

Quite right Steve, mentioned this before on here. I know of a lad with cab over engine type truck, small roller shutter tool box behind that with a high sided tipper body, he was pulled at Leatherhead for looking overweight, all he had in the back was grass cuttings with a flymow thrown on top, virtually nothing in the back and he had to send his passenger home in a taxi because the front axle was overweight.

Once you get to around 20% overloaded you stand a good chance of winning three points and a fine, most Transiteers are running in excess of100% overloaded.

 

Bob

 

 

I was going to ask this about the Isuzu micro lorry. Would some weight in the back take some off the front axle?

[doobin]

2 hours ago, AHPP said:

 

 

I was going to ask this about the Isuzu micro lorry. Would some weight in the back take some off the front axle?

Only if past the back wheels 🤣

[AHPP]

10 minutes ago, doobin said:

Only if past the back wheels 🤣

 

The reason I didn't ask in the first instance is because I realised it was a stupid question.

[Peter 1955]

On 24/03/2025 at 18:41, AHPP said:

 

The reason I didn't ask in the first instance is because I realised it was a stupid question.

Hasn't stopped a lot of folk before. 😂 Self included, before anyone says. 

[NJA]

On 23/03/2025 at 14:59, Mick Dempsey said:

If you’re going to get nicked for overloading fair enough. 
Just don’t hand it to them on a plate by making yourself an obvious tug. 

 

On 23/03/2025 at 21:29, Rich Rule said:

I remember about 20 years ago got pulled in the South Circular driving a VW tipper truck.  Greedy boards, packed to the top with wood chip then ton bags with rakings and ladders ratchet strapped to the top.  Wood chip flowing everywhere,

 

They did us for an indicator out on the chipper. 

Made us detach the chipper and wait for the boss to turn up with a bulb change and we weee free to go.  I don’t recall getting a fine and I definitely didn’t get any points.

 

Very lucky really.

I had a boss years back who used to run transits with trailers of various types, (not overloaded of coure!!!) he always said 'make sure your lights on the truck and trailer are working before you set off, they only need a bulb out (or you've forgotton to plug trailer in at all!) as an excuse to pull you, then they'll check absolutely everything'

 

And yes clean up any woodchip on the cab or anything loose in the back and you've a fair chance they won't pull you in the first place

 

 

 

 

[Ty Korrigan]

On 24/03/2025 at 14:34, parkertrees said:

Our 7 ton Iveco Daily weighs just under 4 ton with chipper (bandit 75), tools on and 3 blokes in the cab. Fully loaded with wet conifer chip it sits just about 7 ton. That's with a very strongly built aluminium plank and steel framed body, plus a separate toolbox. So it can carry 3 ton of woodchip in its 11.3 cubic meter body.

 

From this one can work out that most 3.5 tonners are weighing (at least) 50% more than they should when heading to the tip. This is all fine until something happens....

 

A good mate of mine was in a collision the other day with a pedestrian who ran out in front of him for a bus.... the pedestrian sadly died at the scene. He wasn't speeding, overweight, on his phone or otherwise breaking the rules. The police have his pickup truck however, as its evidence in an upcoming hearing. Multiple witnesses say the pedestrian didn't look, and it wasn't my mates fault, but he's understandably distraught.

 

This really reaffirmed my position on this subject.

 

Now imagine you were in a transit tipper freighted with conifer. Speeding or not, even though the pedestrian literally ran out at the last minute and the collision was unavoidable, your looking at death by dangerous driving/manslaughter charges.

 

For me the paperwork etc to run an HGV really is worth it. The trucks are easier to find in good condition due to the more stringent MOT etc. They're better vehicles all round, pull more, handle weight better, tougher running gear etc.

 

The only down side is a bit more paperwork, and having to put your lads through their test. I mainly drive the truck, and if we take multiple vehicles, then my lad drives my 4x4 towing the Ifor or Arb digger, so i haven't bothered with this part anyway. 

 

Anyway, essay over... but food for thought! 

 

 

The incident you write about reflects my own barely supressed anxieties over some kid wobbling on a dumb electric scooter or unpredictable pedestrian jumping out between parked cars with a phone glued to their ear.

It might simply be me that is hit in a multiple vehicle shunt in urban or autoroute traffic but then the focus swings to my payload.

I worry about losing what little I have amassed in life and destroying any future to a bitter civil court case that strips me of assets to pay eyewatering compensation due to criminal negligence.

 Then I think, if the Gendarmes really cared so much they'd put a road block on the slip road and screw every tradesman in town...