Guess the weight of the GRCS

[AHPP]

Aye. Not mega engaging but the subject matter is useful.

[AHPP]

6 minutes ago, MattyF said:

Put me off any need for a GRCS when the Hobbs pretensioned to that! 

 

It's only pre-tension though. Better than having nothing but easy long lifts are a multiple of pleasure again.

 

The other major thing is that it lifts a huge amount but so what. You don't often need to lift a huge amount. Trees don't weigh much. You're better off lifting moderate weights comfortably and conveniently than being able to lift the earth, an inch at a time.

[MattyF]

For lifting stuff fast I’ve not found anything faster than a groundie pulling small bits off with a pulley tip roped. 

Pretensioning works for me with the Hobbs style devices when I’ve needed it , especially on big stem negative rigging, just never been able to justify the price of a GRCS to pull large bits around when you can work most limbs pretensioned.  

[AHPP]

How much have you used a GRCS?

[peds]

More importantly, how much have you used a GRCS and comms together?

[MattyF]

30 minutes ago, AHPP said:

How much have you used a GRCS?

I haven’t! Because again the price… but I’ve spent a lot of time on the Hobbs style device. 
there’s a hundred different posts about them on here from the last decade or so and every one who has bought one said they would not go back.. but after watching reg coats on why he chose the Hobbs I would happily take his opinion as to the one I’d listen too and why I choose and have been happy with what I’ve had… I can count on one hand the amount of times I thought one would of made the job easy. 

[Mike Hill]

7 hours ago, MattyF said:

I haven’t! Because again the price… but I’ve spent a lot of time on the Hobbs style device. 
there’s a hundred different posts about them on here from the last decade or so and every one who has bought one said they would not go back.. but after watching reg coats on why he chose the Hobbs I would happily take his opinion as to the one I’d listen too and why I choose and have been happy with what I’ve had… I can count on one hand the amount of times I thought one would of made the job easy. 

 

If I lived in the PNW I would get a Hobbs too.Most of the rigging is negative blocking down of Conifer and your wasting the extra money on a GRCS using it as a bollard.

 

 

[Pete Mctree]

My Hobbs has been a great investment. It’s paid for many times over, so I am not worried when it lies idle for weeks at a time. 
I would like a harken winch like the one on the GRCS to lift limbs - this is possible with the Hobbs, but painfully slow and with no fairleed requires an extra man. I find it difficult to compare the devices as they excel in fundamentally different rigging tasks

[treevolution]

I brought a GRCS 10 years ago and the first big fell I did paid for it. 

It's something that if you buy at the start of your career it's well worth the money but if you have managed without one for 20 years then the cost might not warrant the investment. 

 

I looked up the price they are now and pretty sure that when I come to retirement I will be able to sell for the same money I paid with a smile on my face thinking about the jobs that were made a lot easier with it.

 

 

[Mark Bolam]

Enjoyed that vid Alex, cheers.