Remembrance Day

[Steven P]

I think understand your point Mick, it should be a voluntary mark of respect to do whatever you feel appropriate. It doesn't have to be a competition to be who is seen to be the most respectful - biggest brightest poppies and so on. Personally paying respect rather than obliged to do so, but because you want to.

[Mark Bolam]

Perfectly put Steven.

It’s a very personal thing.

 

It should be quiet, respectful and very British.

 

I know what you’re saying Mick, it should never sink into American style razzmatazz.

[GarethM]

Whilst I fully understand your sentiment of it being over the top.

 

Aslong as you observe the silence of that's all. I don't watch anything either.

[Mick Dempsey]

4 minutes ago, GarethM said:

Whilst I fully understand your sentiment of it being over the top.

 

Aslong as you observe the silence of that's all. I don't watch anything either.

I came in from the workshop for 15 odd minutes to watch the ceremony at the cenotaph. 
 

[AHPP]

People treat it as a celebration of sacrifice, not a recognition of waste. War is unspeakably shit. Just about every day of the year, I see some warry thing and think to myself, yeah, new CoD game looks good but how glamorous is actually having to bayonet another human being before he bayonets you. I turn conversations with strangers to how their tax loot goes to blowing up brown people who've never done them any harm. I write songs about how industrial militarism and nation state conflict is a tragedy. Pretty much daily, I'm thinking to myself in spare moments, how can we break this stupid system of getting kids to kill each other when they could be growing strawberries and going sailing instead?

 

So if, on 1 day out of 364, some shop staff gives me a haughty look at 11:01 because I'm not standing there with my basket like a lemon, I couldn't care less. I've been advocating for peace for the last decade or so. You'll get to 11:02 and five seconds and be back to thinking about Love Island, you vacuous bint.

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[GarethM]

I'm sorry AHPP you're speaking absolute shite.

[monkeybusiness]

There are a few sheltered generations fortunate enough to have grown up with absolutely no exposure to fear, threat or sacrifice nowadays (including my own) - I don’t think it hurts one bit to keep this front and centre to hopefully instil some sort of recognition of what came before and what might be. 
I don’t see any sort of one-upmanship where I live for what it’s worth, and really don’t think it has become more of an ‘event’ than it ever used to be (I was actually thinking it had become quite the opposite which I find rather sad). 

[GarethM]

In AHPPs world we shouldn't have German kids going to concentration camps to remember what happened.

 

Or the way the Dutch tend war graves, because they had to be liberated, so they never want to forget the sacrifices.

[peds]

He's actually saying the opposite of that, Gareth. 

For a lot of people, November 11th is the only time of the year when they think about just how shitty war is, and they ignore it again until next year.

 

 

 

My folks, when still teachers, ran trips for teenagers to Ypres every year. Should be a mandatory part of the curriculum.

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[Mark Bolam]

2 hours ago, AHPP said:

People treat it as a celebration of sacrifice, not a recognition of waste. War is unspeakably shit. Just about every day of the year, I see some warry thing and think to myself, yeah, new CoD game looks good but how glamorous is actually having to bayonet another human being before he bayonets you. I turn conversations with strangers to how their tax loot goes to blowing up brown people who've never done them any harm. I write songs about how industrial militarism and nation state conflict is a tragedy. Pretty much daily, I'm thinking to myself in spare moments, how can we break this stupid system of getting kids to kill each other when they could be growing strawberries and going sailing instead?

 

So if, on 1 day out of 364, some shop staff gives me a haughty look at 11:01 because I'm not standing there with my basket like a lemon, I couldn't care less. I've been advocating for peace for the last decade or so. You'll get to 11:02 and five seconds and be back to thinking about Love Island, you vacuous bint.

I know what you mean Alex.

 

The ‘War to end all Wars’ should have been just that.

 

Europe, at least, sorted.

 

Then along cones our old friend money….

Peace isn’t good for money…,