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Posted
13 hours ago, AHPP said:

 

Missed this bit earlier. I don't read it if it says it's AI. I stop reading it if I think it's AI. I cut people off if they tell me AI told them something. It's like Gareth on here. It sounds prima facie plausible but it could be total bollocks underneath. It's dangerous to listen to in case you get sucked into believing it.

 

An example of real danger I thought of a year or so ago was asking AI about battery storage. Tell it you have a bank of lead acid batteries. Ask it whether you should allow them to vent to atmosphere. Will it look at the ingredients of a lead acid battery and decide that those nasty chemicals should be contained and later disposed of in some proper way? Or will it work out that you'd be containing hydrogen offgas? 

 

Must be a million more examples like that.

 

So yes. It will already be causing problems and it will cause some big ones in the fullness of time. Hence a lot of people's desire to go back to old ways to be sure you're getting an answer with something behind it.

 

 

I admire your stance, I try to adopt the same, but as we're in the minority in taking a stand against AI, it's ultimately futile I think. It's everywhere in the digital world, and it's just too damn easy to lap it up. Convenience is always the killer with stuff like this. The quickest, easiest or highest ranking answer to any question on a search engine is also going to be the one most readily taken.

 

Taking your battery question as an example. If you didn't know the ingredients of a battery you would never have thought of any potential dangers that could arise from an incorrect AI answer. What's more, it's being deployed to produce an analogue of an answer to almost any question you type in, however ridiculous. 

 

https://www.google.com/search?q=where does stephen p's coal come from%3F&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-m

 

 

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Posted (edited)
5 hours ago, sime42 said:

 

 

I admire your stance, I try to adopt the same, but as we're in the minority in taking a stand against AI, it's ultimately futile I think. It's everywhere in the digital world, and it's just too damn easy to lap it up. Convenience is always the killer with stuff like this. The quickest, easiest or highest ranking answer to any question on a search engine is also going to be the one most readily taken.

 

Taking your battery question as an example. If you didn't know the ingredients of a battery you would never have thought of any potential dangers that could arise from an incorrect AI answer. What's more, it's being deployed to produce an analogue of an answer to almost any question you type in, however ridiculous. 

 

https://www.google.com/search?q=where does stephen p's coal come from%3F&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-m

 

 

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I have all the time in the world to be a weird cunnt about things like this, perform longer form research, just sit and think about things. This is a luxury most people don't have. They're so harried by modern life that they need quick answers/fixes and to move on to whack the next mole. It's no way to live.

 

I've said it a thousand times on here. Fiat money and town and country planning restrictions are what keep people like this. If people could save money without it being inflated away and buy a cheap place to live, they'd have no gun to their head to work and rent. They could sit around, get a tan, grow their hair and observe how the world works. They wouldn't need cheap, quick, bodge answers. With technology and communication as good as it is these days, life should be easy.

 

Rambling again. Trying to avoid doing something else.

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1 hour ago, sime42 said:

 

 

I admire your stance, I try to adopt the same, but as we're in the minority in taking a stand against AI, it's ultimately futile I think. It's everywhere in the digital world, and it's just too damn easy to lap it up. Convenience is always the killer with stuff like this. The quickest, easiest or highest ranking answer to any question on a search engine is also going to be the one most readily taken.

 

Taking your battery question as an example. If you didn't know the ingredients of a battery you would never have thought of any potential dangers that could arise from an incorrect AI answer. What's more, it's being deployed to produce an analogue of an answer to almost any question you type in, however ridiculous. 

 

https://www.google.com/search?q=where does stephen p's coal come from%3F&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-m

 

 

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Imagine how much time you could have saved if the BS master had just answered in the first place, especially seeing as that doesn’t say where it was mined,  which was after all the actual question. Nice try though I’m sure he will feel cosier now. 

Posted
3 hours ago, AHPP said:

 

 

 

I've said it a thousand times on here. Fiat money and town and country planning restrictions are what keep people like this. If people could save money without it being inflated away and buy a cheap place to live, they'd have no gun to their head to work and rent. They could to sit around, get a tan, grow their hair and observe how the world works. They wouldn't need cheap, quick, bodge answers. With technology and communication as good as it is these days, life should be easy  

Most people can’t just sit around and do feck all. 
They fill their lives with strife and drama if there is none. 
Sitting around pondering the meaning of life would send people over the edge. 
 

Work gives meaning and purpose. 

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1 hour ago, Mick Dempsey said:

Most people can’t just sit around and do feck all. 
They fill their lives with strife and drama if there is none. 
Sitting around pondering the meaning of life would send people over the edge. 
 

Work gives meaning and purpose. 


Nobody would be stopping them. Namaste. 

Posted (edited)
1 hour ago, Mick Dempsey said:

Most people can’t just sit around and do feck all. 
They fill their lives with strife and drama if there is none. 
Sitting around pondering the meaning of life would send people over the edge. 
 

Work gives meaning and purpose. 

 

And before someone chimes in, Dole scum in the future are not going to be referred to as the intellectual elite because of all that free time for finking/drinking and f***ing.

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1 hour ago, GarethM said:

 

And before someone chimes in, Dole scum in the future are not going to be referred to as the intellectual elite because of all that free time for finking/drinking and f***ing.

need a season for 'em, like deer,pheasant,vermin.

the job center would become lot more popular.

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