Right, wrong, or just playing the game?

[eggsarascal]

1 minute ago, trigger_andy said:

I understand why you’d think so. Never mind though. 

I won’t.

[pie eater pete]

On 08/05/2023 at 17:14, trigger_andy said:

It hardly ever works for Labour either hence why they’ve not been in power for so long. 
 

At the next GE if labour get in it won’t be because they won the election rather the Tories lost it. 

The 2 party system in this country is a complete waste of time. All far too similar in their actions..seem to be empty promises while they feather their own nests.

[trigger_andy]

15 minutes ago, pie eater pete said:

The 2 party system in this country is a complete waste of time. All far too similar in their actions..seem to be empty promises while they feather their own nests.

Can you think of a Western Country that’s not basically a two party system?
 

The workshy in the U.K. have far to much rights. I know that will ruffle the feathers of a few bleeding hearts on here but in my opinion it’s true. The tail is very much wagging the dog and crippling both main parties into pandering to their votes.  
 

No job, no vote. In jail? No vote. Under 21? They don’t even know what gender they are these days, so not in a position to comprehend which party to vote for so no vote. 

[sime42]

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[doobin]

1 hour ago, trigger_andy said:

Can you think of a Western Country that’s not basically a two party system?
 

The workshy in the U.K. have far to much rights. I know that will ruffle the feathers of a few bleeding hearts on here but in my opinion it’s true. The tail is very much wagging the dog and crippling both main parties into pandering to their votes.  
 

No job, no vote. In jail? No vote. Under 21? They don’t even know what gender they are these days, so not in a position to comprehend which party to vote for so no vote. 

I didn’t think prisoners could vote?

 

fully agree re under 21. The youth are constantly targeted by the left, and it’s always the left pushing votes for 16 year olds simply to bolster their votes. Mind you, either party are happy to re-draw constituency boundaries if their think they will gain. 
 

The two party system is broken IMHO. Both parties are utter shite, neither stand for what they say they do. Two sides of the same coin. 
 

We are taxed through the roof and get ever less to show for it. 40 percent tax and can’t even see a doctor, the roads round here are 3rd world.  The only reason for voting Tory vs labour is that labour are guaranteed to waste the extra tax they take- at least under the Tories there’s a chance you’ll be taxed slightly less and can purchase the services you need yourself. 
 

The two party system is a roadblock to any real change. I want a party that is conservative in values, not name. I want a party that understands that a country should be about quality of life for its citizens, not unsustainable Ponzi-type “growth”. The only one I can find that I agree with almost all of their policies are the Social Democrats. Yet without PR parties like that may as well not exist. 

[AHPP]

Have the voting age at whatever but have the age of legal responsibility match it. Why should anyone be subject to laws they can’t vote on? 

[sime42]

1 hour ago, doobin said:

I didn’t think prisoners could vote?

 

fully agree re under 21. The youth are constantly targeted by the left, and it’s always the left pushing votes for 16 year olds simply to bolster their votes. Mind you, either party are happy to re-draw constituency boundaries if their think they will gain. 
 

The two party system is broken IMHO. Both parties are utter shite, neither stand for what they say they do. Two sides of the same coin. 
 

We are taxed through the roof and get ever less to show for it. 40 percent tax and can’t even see a doctor, the roads round here are 3rd world.  The only reason for voting Tory vs labour is that labour are guaranteed to waste the extra tax they take- at least under the Tories there’s a chance you’ll be taxed slightly less and can purchase the services you need yourself. 
 

The two party system is a roadblock to any real change. I want a party that is conservative in values, not name. I want a party that understands that a country should be about quality of life for its citizens, not unsustainable Ponzi-type “growth”. The only one I can find that I agree with almost all of their policies are the Social Democrats. Yet without PR parties like that may as well not exist. 

 

You don't need to see a doctor any more, you can just go to Boots and talk to the spotty youth behind the counter, they'll fix ya up! 

 

[trigger_andy]

1 hour ago, AHPP said:

Have the voting age at whatever but have the age of legal responsibility match it. Why should anyone be subject to laws they can’t vote on? 

Are children not subject to laws? 

[AHPP]

1 hour ago, trigger_andy said:

Are children not subject to laws? 

 

They are. That's what I'm talking about.

[trigger_andy]

Just now, AHPP said:

 

They are. That's what I'm talking about.

So since children are subject to law, ie from birth up to eighteen you believe that that that should have a right from birth to vote on laws they are subject to, or there to protect them?