Putting a different engine in a chipper...

[woody paul]

1 hour ago, PeteB said:

There were many Perkins conversions over the years,  even saw a tidy conversion using the diesel lump

Had a uncle how put a perkins in a Rover P4, mine you he did work at Perkins at the time so I can guess how he got the engine. And he had been a royal engineer in army. 

[parkertrees]

Yeah as mentioned above, don't go car engine. They're not designed for sitting at 3000 rpm stationary, so will just die. 

 

a few years back i swapped out the (blown) lombardini engine in a Kwikchip 222 for a Lister Peter LP4WT 50hp. Much easier on that machine as no clutch to worry about, so i just fabbed up a new bracket to hold the main pulley block in the new location. I ditched all the complex lomabrdini wiring and just used what came on the Lister (it was a generator engine so all conveniently packed into a box). I didn't worry about anti stress as the thing was so powerful, and the rollers so Shit that it could never grab hold of anything that would come close to stalling it!

 

Hardest part was making the new engine cover, as the standard one was fibreglass. I was going to do something interesting with it but before i had a chance the turbo blew on it after a few weeks working. think it had sat for too long. I was going to fix it but ended up selling it on eBay, as realistically my Bandit 75xp is a waaaay better machine for pulling in.

[GA Groundcare]

The old Toro fairway mowers, 6500 & 6700 used to run Peugeot diesel engines. The mechanical XUD engines are bombproof.  

 

 

[Peter 1955]

On 16/05/2023 at 13:28, woody paul said:

Had a uncle how put a perkins in a Rover P4, mine you he did work at Perkins at the time so I can guess how he got the engine. And he had been a royal engineer in army. 

Once upon a time we fitted the 4-108 from  a Commer van into a petrol CF van. Needed a bit of ingenuity in places. Then in a spirit of reciprocity, we fitted a 4-154 from a CF into a Vauxhall Victor estate. Well, if the slant petrol and the diesel both went into the CF, how hard could it be to fit the diesel into a car with that engine? Finding suitable front springs was trial and error, and even when we'd fitted an overdrive gearbox, fuel economy was awful. 

8 hours ago, GA Groundcare said:

The old Toro fairway mowers, 6500 & 6700 used to run Peugeot diesel engines. The mechanical XUD engines are bombproof.  

 

 

And the pile of crap they replaced it with only had one aim in life, which was to have the water pump fail, and destroy the head gasket, and warp the head. One van at work had this twice, mine once, followed by a terminal episode. 

[openspaceman]

On 23/05/2023 at 11:50, GA Groundcare said:

The old Toro fairway mowers, 6500 & 6700 used to run Peugeot diesel engines. The mechanical XUD engines are bombproof.  

 

 

I still have a 2.3 out of a pug 504 van, 300 miles since total engine rebuild and one of the lads rolled it. I took it out because I couldn't bear to throw it away. Freebie to anyone who wants to play but it will need a new sump as it wore through dragging it around over the years.

Edited May 24, 2023 by openspaceman

[aspenarb]

The only real difference between a stationary diesel engine and one from an old school car/van is the weights in the injection pump. Stationary engines are normally set to max out at much lower rpm’s , this can’t be achieved by just turning down the max fuel , it’s the governor weights inside the pump that would need changing. I have used a contraption called a speedic in the past which is a belt run engine speed controller. Bit like rocking horse shit to find these days but they will do the job in the same way, pre set the revs as you would on a chipper and the speedic will operate a separate arm to the pump, this keeps an otherwise 4500rpm engine in check. Can also be done with generator speed controllers and servos, if anyone is interested I will post up how.

 

Bob

[Canal Navvy]

On 23/05/2023 at 11:50, GA Groundcare said:

The old Toro fairway mowers, 6500 & 6700 used to run Peugeot diesel engines. The mechanical XUD engines are bombproof.  

 

I wonder if they know yet how long they actually last 🤔😄