Royal mail

[Kimosabi]

48 minutes ago, Mesterh said:

You must be bored.

 

My postie says it's less about the pay and more about the working conditions. 

So no, no pay rise but better working conditions according to someone who is actually doing the job.

 

What way better working conditions  give an example 

[Kimosabi]

37 minutes ago, Mark Bolam said:

£25k?

My postie mates earn a bit more than that taking on extras, but it’s not so much about the money as about screwing around with contracts.

 

Say you sign up for £25k on a 5 day week.

Then a new contract is put in front of you, 6 day week for £25k.

 

Would you take it?

 

In tree terms it’s like a twat customer who you’ve taken 5 trees down for the agreed £2000.

He now wants the 6th taken down for nothing.

 

What do you do?

 

Do it for nothing because you want to keep working?

 

Or ‘go on strike’, ie tell him it will be an extra £400 or he can whistle?

It's not much these days to be fair 

[Mesterh]

11 minutes ago, Kimosabi said:

What way better working conditions  give an example 

Read Mr Bolams post.

 

It's not always about the money.

 

Or maybe just speak to your postie, you will get far better information than you will get from a bunch of arbs.

 

 

 

 

[Squaredy]

Posties do not train for three years and take people’s lives in their hands, so I think it is much simpler than nurses.   At the end of the day if they aren’t happy then leave and work for someone else.
 

Posties going on strike is going to destroy their business and therefore their jobs anyway, so is totally self defeating.  Remember their main business these days is not letters but packets, and there are plenty of other couriers very happy to deliver them.

 

 If I need to order something for work now I make certain it is not being delivered by Royal Mail, unless I can afford to wait weeks for it to arrive.

[trigger_andy]

4 hours ago, Squaredy said:

Posties do not train for three years and take people’s lives in their hands, so I think it is much simpler than nurses.   At the end of the day if they aren’t happy then leave and work for someone else.
 

Posties going on strike is going to destroy their business and therefore their jobs anyway, so is totally self defeating.  Remember their main business these days is not letters but packets, and there are plenty of other couriers very happy to deliver them.

 

 If I need to order something for work now I make certain it is not being delivered by Royal Mail, unless I can afford to wait weeks for it to arrive.

I really don’t agree. I have actually spoken with my local postie and it’s primarily not about pay but an erosion of working conditions. A serious erosion. Why should they put up and shut up or leave?

There’s a 🤡 here that keeps spouting about how nurses signed up for their working conditions, well Posties have not signed up to have their contractual working conditions worsened. 
The RM has been ran into the ground since it’s been privatised. That’s not the fault of the Postie is it? They have every right to strike. Not just to ensure they keep the working conditions they signed up for but also to ensure their wages rise with inflation (at least) so they are not in effect being forced into a pay cut. 
If the RM cannot survive keeping the Posties in the same (or better) working condition’s they have now or can’t afford to pay their workers a wage that meets inflation (or better) then they deserve to fold and allow other private companies to compete in their monopoly.

 

[trigger_andy]

Royal Mail posts £726m profit amid pandemic demand for parcels | Royal Mail | The Guardian

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Growth in online shopping during Covid outbreak fuels dramatic turnaround for delivery company<br>

 

Quadrupled profits yet they want to slash working conditions for their workers? Strike action is always the last resort and I for one fully support them if they do. 

[pleasant]

Drove to post office at lunchtime yesterday. Had a small jiffy bag packet to send....was going to use a courier but going to northern ireland so the premium was quite dear hence decided to use the post office. Woman at post office window said 'sorry we've been told not to take in any parcels or letters over the counter as they are on strike today and they already have such a back log they dont want you adding to it. Not taking any parcels in until wednesday so bring it back then'

 

....no love, í'm not jumping through hoops to appease you or the post office, so i went home, printed off the dearer label for a courier and dropped it into them on my way home.  Another customer lost.

[AWarb00]

A postie I spoke to said they were fighting for thier jobs altogether, not a pay rise , apparently RM are going to scrap the red postboxes completely, which means all postie's will lose thier jobs, essentially they will just become a courier like all the rest

I mean, who posts mail these days other than bills etc but it's mostly just emailed, he said if you're lucky when emptying a postbox on an evening these days there may be 2 envelopes

 

 

I'm sure I read somewhere that parking wardens are striking next 

 

Edited December 24, 2022 by AWarb00

[GarethM]

So we strike because buisness is that bad we're going to have to become a parcel delivery company.

 

Fail to see the positive logic there.

 

I have noticed the parcel prices for RM are actually reasonable, in the past even FedEx were sometimes cheaper. Penny finally dropped I guess.

[doobin]

Royal Mail has the universal service obligation. No other courier company is lumbered with that. 
 

Royal Mail bosses simply want to cream off the parcel business and lumber the taxpayer with the loss making bit. Same old Tories. Privatise the profits and socialise the losses.