Standing firewood price?

[doobin]

Processor grade, 50% thin on about three acres. Trees skinny but little brash to them, ash and beech average 10-12” diameter. 
 

Only really access for a tractor based forwarding outfit to move. What would be a fair price per ton standing? There’s not a lot there but it’s easily felled and processed with our processor. 

Edited June 19, 2022 by doobin

[gdh]

It's a bit small so I would probably guess at £20 a ton standing depending on brash/tidying requirements.

[slack ma girdle]

Timber stacking area is the make or break for small woods. This is what a lot of owners never seem to grasp. Small tree are always slow to process so I would be around the £10-15 mark.

[doobin]

Thanks guys. The stacking area is reasonable.

 

Any best guesses for the tonnage per acre? Appreciate it's a wild stab in the dark without photos....

Edited June 22, 2022 by doobin

[spuddog0507]

2 hours ago, doobin said:

Thanks guys. The stacking area is reasonable.

 

Any best guesses for the tonnage per acre? Appreciate it's a wild stab in the dark without photos....

We have a 5 acre block to do this winter with a 35-40% thin, trees could be a bigger than the ones you describe and when I went with the FC guy we estimated approx 80 tonne to come out give or take a bit either way, our woodland is quite tidy and  it has been planted very well, it just needs the smaller and defective trees taking out and the better ones leaving to come on more, your on a 50% thin on 3 acre so I would say your volume will be some where about the same as ours,

[drinksloe]

I know a lot will be in experienced buyers eye and they will just get a feel from previous jobs..

 

But wot is the planting distance 2m, 3m?

To get a broad ball park figure if u know the acreage and tree spacings u will know how many trees ( 2m is roughly 2500 to a hectare) then if u can guestimate ur likely weight of produce of an average tree, u should be there or there abouts.

 

I know some forestry companies estates will mark of small areas/plots scattered around a wood and measure 5,10.... trees in detail to try and get a decent estimate for an average to them work out T's

[oldwoodcutter]

The old forestry commission tariff boys measured 1 in every 100 on big stands.

[slack ma girdle]

On 22/06/2022 at 12:51, doobin said:

Thanks guys. The stacking area is reasonable.

 

Any best guesses for the tonnage per acre? Appreciate it's a wild stab in the dark without photos....

Measure out a 5.6m circle in the wood, and count the number of trees, measure the dbh of each tree, and tree height. Depending on how variable the trees are you will need to repeat 6-20 times.

You will need to get your hands on the tariff tables to work out tree volume and total volume .

Each 5.6m plot is 0.001 of a hectare,  so times by 100 to get volume and tree total per hectare. Times by the wood area to get total volume and tree total.

[Vedhoggar]

On 22/06/2022 at 12:51, doobin said:

Thanks guys. The stacking area is reasonable.

 

Any best guesses for the tonnage per acre? Appreciate it's a wild stab in the dark without photos....

Rough estimate of yield based on an average growth rate if about say 25-30 years old will possible be 13 tonne an acre, so for 3 acre say 39 tonne. Growth rate, spacing and age will have a bearing on yield, take a few measurements within stand if you can and estimate volume.

[openspaceman]

44 minutes ago, Vedhoggar said:

Rough estimate of yield based on an average growth rate if about say 25-30 years old will possible be 13 tonne an acre, so for 3 acre say 39 tonne. Growth rate, spacing and age will have a bearing on yield, take a few measurements within stand if you can and estimate volume.

Why so low? I would expect a yield class of 4-8M3/Ha/Yr and it's just over a hectare so in 30 years there could be 120+m3 standing, half of that as thinning.