Russia Invades ukraine

[Mike Hill]

20 hours ago, GarethM said:

Dynamite= Alfred noble awards

 

Maxim sold machine guns to both sides during a few conflicts including the 1st world war.

 

IBM didn't do too badly from what I remember keeping track of numbers on the trains.

 

And I'm not a cheese eating surrender monkey, but most wars are about territory. WW2 probably being the exception to the rule 

 

You are talking utter bollocks.

[GarethM]

10 minutes ago, Mike Hill said:

You are talking utter bollocks.

Believe what you will, reality is those companies did get very rich, even Mr Ford liked to fun annual celebrations.

 

Might have been backing the wrong horse, but the world is a different place.

[peds]

21 minutes ago, Mike Hill said:

 

You are talking utter bollocks.

 

8 minutes ago, GarethM said:

Believe what you will, reality is those companies did get very rich, 

 

Noone here is arguing that people don't make money off of war. They are probably picking up on your shaky grasp of the history of the Nobel Prize, and your theory that Germany didn't start WW2 in an effort to procure more territory. 

[Steve Bullman]

9 hours ago, Mesterh said:

I dunno, surely there has to be a lot of intel to be had sending the latest weapons into war.

I think WW3, like a proper nuclear WW3 is not on the cards, a non nuclear WW3 is probably happening right now.

 

You could argue it has been for the past 10+ years really 

[GarethM]

@peds it's not a shaky grasp of history, history is never binary and is down to interpretation, that's why we have historians.

 

Just because Germany went on a little corporate expansion didn't make it WW2, most of Europe was taken quickly until it came to the borders of the UK and Russia and it became apparent what was happening to dissenters and cleansing in the years following.

 

As I've said we live in a different world, it'll never happen again with social media.

 

Imagine Pinochet, Pol Pot, Franco, Mussolini today.

[peds]

[AHPP]

The most dangerous thing is he seems rational and is right about things some of the time. 

[Mesterh]

This is quite a good timeline of WW2

Looks like the Russians did quite a lot of land grabbing, I don't ever remember much talk about that in the old history lessons back in school!

 

World War II: Timeline

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World War II was the largest and most destructive conflict in history. Learn about key WWII dates in this timeline...

 

[AHPP]

7 minutes ago, AHPP said:

The most dangerous thing is he seems rational and is right about things some of the time. 

 

Like when you meet someone, get on well and foresee a fruitful friendship but then they invite you to see Elvis play at an open mic night on Wednesday. 

[peds]

22 minutes ago, Mesterh said:

 

Looks like the Russians did quite a lot of land grabbing, I don't ever remember much talk about that in the old history lessons back in school!

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We were definitely fed a very western perspective at school, when our side of things was really just a sideshow. From a purely numbers point of view, the main event of the European theatre of WW2 was the Eastern front. It's impossible to comprehend the destruction.

 

Obligatory shoutout to Dan Carlin's Ghosts of the Ostfront if anyone hasn't heard it yet.

 

Edit:

Carlin's podcast

Ghosts of the Ostfront Series – Dan Carlin

WWW.DANCARLIN.COM

 

Edited June 8, 2024 by peds