Rebated duty fuel ----RED DIESEL----

[Mesterh]

I think in law you will find that you are disposing of your clients waste. For you to own the timber you would need to make an offer to the client and the client accept that offer. If accepted then consideration has to take place normally in the form of money but could be a service provided ie removal of timber.

 

Doesnt this move into EA territory ie they state virgin timber is not waste, therefore you may not be moving waste depending on what the virgin timber is being used for. Dunno if this will make any difference or not but I assume the EA are the governing body on what is and what isnt waste.

 

 

BTW someone mentioned red diesel is a dirty fuel and worse for your health than white is this true?

 

I thought they were both the same.

[Justme]

BTW someone mentioned red diesel is a dirty fuel and worse for your health than white is this true?

 

I thought they were both the same.

 

They are now virtually the same & by 2012 will be the same.

[skyhuck]

They are now virtually the same & by 2012 will be the same.

 

No they are not!!!!!!!!!

 

Red is crap!!!!!!

[Big 'Ammer]

No they are not!!!!!!!!!

 

Red is crap!!!!!!

 

Maybe, maybe not....

 

More sulphur in red, therefore more explosive.

 

More bang for less bucks.

 

No additives, so its crap, but its cheap.

 

And its worse for you, but we're not drinking it, are we?

[skyhuck]

Maybe' date=' maybe not....

 

More sulphur in red, therefore more explosive.

 

More bang for less bucks.

 

No additives, so its crap, but its cheap.

 

And its worse for you, but we're not drinking it, are we? [/quote']

 

Alex Price reckons people who stop using red and go on to white (in there mogs) see a 15% increase in power and use 15% less fuel.

[arbwork]

crikey that makes your mog almost twice as powerful than ours ##

[Johny Walker]

Alex Price reckons people who stop using red and go on to white (in there mogs) see a 15% increase in power and use 15% less fuel.

 

that could be a valid point ther dave have ac got any proof of this ,if its better fuel economy/& better returns mpg/hrs chipping etc may well be worth running chippers on white ,any body got any more input

[Mesterh]

Alex Price reckons people who stop using red and go on to white (in there mogs) see a 15% increase in power and use 15% less fuel.

 

Yeah reckons, there stress level probably drops which makes it all seem better:001_tongue:

 

I am sure its the same stuff just may not have the extra bits esso/shell etc put in but 15% is a fair whack of an increase in anyones books.

[Saw-sick Steve]

They are now virtually the same & by 2012 will be the same.

...and probably about the same price, the way things are going.

[renewablejohn]

Doesnt this move into EA territory ie they state virgin timber is not waste, therefore you may not be moving waste depending on what the virgin timber is being used for. Dunno if this will make any difference or not but I assume the EA are the governing body on what is and what isnt waste.

 

 

BTW someone mentioned red diesel is a dirty fuel and worse for your health than white is this true?

 

I thought they were both the same.

 

Still does not get over the point of ownership of the tree that you have felled whether you have purchased it or are disposing of it for your client. In the latter VOSA would view as a haulage service for your client so you would definitely need white.