£15/hour

[trigger_andy]

Just now, muttley9050 said:

22 minutes ago, trigger_andy said:

Well I was quoting from some on-line articles posted by members or ex members of your commune.
 
Id keep quite it only took you 2 hours, you'll still owe them 6 more for today otherwise.  
 
Im glad you've found your calling. Its clearly for some folk and not for others. Personally I like my own space and the joy that comes from gaining the fruits of my own labour and not being forced to share that with everyone and then one day have to walk away from it all. Each to their own. 

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As mick says you relate everything to money. Earning potential etc. I don't.

I dont relate everything to money, although I can see why it seems that way. I could work way more days off-shore than I do if I wanted. I could double my yearly wage by going from 80-100 days a year to 180. But I want a balance of home life and to be able to provide my family with a comfortable lifestyle and if I can do that by working just over a quarter of a year then I'll do that and not chase the money. 

 

If you're having to give two days a week labour to the commune then of course Im going to consider the earning potential you're giving up in the belief you're getting 'low rent'. 

 

You've still not explained what this £1 buy-in is you mentioned? 

[Mike Hill]

45 minutes ago, muttley9050 said:

49 minutes ago, Mike Hill said:

Depends:
 
Woofers can be people employed in public service jobs who get long holidays but low wages. On their 6 week summer holiday they could doss about their flat,take a booze soaked package holiday to some sunny place or Woof across Canada for basically the cost of their plane tickets .
 
 

Exactly. A cheap weekend away too and meet some interesting people.

This.

 

It was amazing the skill exchanges that took place.I taught a Scottish Butcher how to sharpen a Chainsaw,he taught me how to steel a knife. 

 

I let a Canadian woman use my bath,she showed me a reverse cowgirl..

[AHPP]

I live in a fully mutual housing co-op on18 acres of land.

Pay £1 for a share. Live here fully mutually. Low expenses designed to cover bills m maintenance /land projects etc.

 

No planners to fight although I see that coming at some point in my life.[emoji6]

 

 

I’d discerned from your posting over the years that you live a different domestic life to many. Hugely interested to read more. The various conveniences and economies of scale must be excellent; always the correct person/vehicle/tool available for the correct job, always space to store a bulk buy or a good buy, drains like council tax and utility standing charges spread out. I wouldn’t imagine the lifestyle hampers capitalist opportunity in the slightest either? The opposite even. You could easily own a house (let) or any other asset elsewhere in the same way that you work elsewhere. Many would regard that as better business than the house in which you live being your biggest “asset.”

 

 

[difflock]

Really really good to see such a large house still being used as a dwelling, rather than a profit motivated development "opportunity'.

The "management" of the "expectations"  (or how one would motivate them to make any meaningful contribution!) of some of those who would be keen to be part of such a community would interest me though.

[muttley9050]

Really really good to see such a large house still being used as a dwelling, rather than a profit motivated development "opportunity'.
The "management" of the "expectations"  (or how one would motivate them to make any meaningful contribution!) of some of those who would be keen to be part of such a community would interest me though.

You make assumptions too. None of us are lazy, unwashed or hippies.

[muttley9050]

 I’d discerned from your posting over the years that you live a different domestic life to many. Hugely interested to read more. The various conveniences and economies of scale must be excellent; always the correct person/vehicle/tool available for the correct job, always space to store a bulk buy or a good buy, drains like council tax and utility standing charges spread out. I wouldn’t imagine the lifestyle hampers capitalist opportunity in the slightest either? The opposite even. You could easily own a house (let) or any other asset elsewhere in the same way that you work elsewhere. Many would regard that as better business than the house in which you live being your biggest “asset.”
 
 

You make better assumptions than others.

[muttley9050]

I dont relate everything to money, although I can see why it seems that way. I could work way more days off-shore than I do if I wanted. I could double my yearly wage by going from 80-100 days a year to 180. But I want a balance of home life and to be able to provide my family with a comfortable lifestyle and if I can do that by working just over a quarter of a year then I'll do that and not chase the money. 

 

If you're having to give two days a week labour to the commune then of course Im going to consider the earning potential you're giving up in the belief you're getting 'low rent'. 

 

You've still not explained what this £1 buy-in is you mentioned? 

I did explain it. I said it was a legality. You can't legally give shares away.

Earning potential comes down to how much you want to earn. Id rather spend time growing veg and rearing animals etc to be more sustainable, than I would working for the man and buying these things.

 

[difflock]

3 minutes ago, muttley9050 said:

58 minutes ago, difflock said:

Really really good to see such a large house still being used as a dwelling, rather than a profit motivated development "opportunity'.
The "management" of the "expectations"  (or how one would motivate them to make any meaningful contribution!) of some of those who would be keen to be part of such a community would interest me though.

You make assumptions too. None of us are lazy, unwashed or hippies.

Now, I never said or even suggested that!

I did ask how you prevented such a likely, (and purely driven by human nature), occurance though.

cheers

m

[muttley9050]

One of the real benefits to me is that I can rear pigs, grow veg etc etc, but I'm not tied to it. If I want to disappear for a month in the van, somebody else will sort those things out.

 

 

[muttley9050]

Don’t get bogged down in Andy’s perceptions and comparisons with his personal ideal. 
 
Whilst not for me either, I am genuinely interested in hearing more about the set up and organisation of your scenario. 
 
Make for an interesting thread in its own right IMHO

I appreciate it isn't for everybody. I like it. Lived here a long time.
Andy is narrow minded in alot of his postings so shouldn't expect any difference here.