re - nesting birds

[openspaceman]

1 minute ago, Anno said:

Some birds, known as ‘schedule 1 birds’, eg barn owls, have extra legal protection. For these bird species it’s also an offence to do the following, either intentionally or by not taking enough care:

• disturb them while they’re nesting, building a nest, in or near a nest that contains their young
• disturb their dependent young

You could get an unlimited fine and up to 6 months in prison for each offence if you’re found guilty.

Yes I know but what makes the nest "active" i.e. is it active if they are not there, not building it  or near it and there are no young present or returning to it?

 

It strikes me as the penalty was derisory none of the above applied or could be proven.

[Anno]

I am just reporting from the press release and finding it really difficult to find any further details that doesn't include bias from either side of the fence, in my opinion if an offence was committed and the nest contained birds or eggs the outcome is piss poor and shows how ineffective the law is, I have knowledge of the terminology 'restorative justice' and still await the person who felled 2 TPO'd trees in my old Borough 7 years ago to do his 48 hours with the Council's litter pickers.

[Patrick goulding]

2 minutes ago, Anno said:

I am just reporting from the press release and finding it really difficult to find any further details that doesn't include bias from either side of the fence, in my opinion if an offence was committed and the nest contained birds or eggs the outcome is piss poor and shows how ineffective the law is, I have knowledge of the terminology 'restorative justice' and still await the person who felled 2 TPO'd trees in my old Borough 7 years ago to do his 48 hours with the Council's litter pickers.

I agree with your statements that is logical sense. The problem is you don’t always here the truth so you can’t just come out and point a finger. It’s a touchy subject but a reasonable opinion. Some times you have to stand back and have a think before you go in like a bull in a China shop that’s the trouble with society these days.

 

 

Open space man is thinking 🤔 smartly.

[Sviatoslav Tulin]

I always curious, what you, tree people eating during nesting season! 

 

Edited July 19, 2021 by Sviatoslav Tulin

[Conor Wright]

1 hour ago, Sviatoslav Tulin said:

I always curious, what you, tree people eating during nesting season! 

 

Eggs.

 

 

 

[Sviatoslav Tulin]

2 hours ago, Conor Wright said:

Eggs.

 

 

Eggs from nest or shop? 

[spudulike]

In my book it is pretty sad that this nest has been destroyed. I have never seen a Goshawk in the wild and with this sort of action, it is unlikely I will any time soon.

£100.....really!!

 

[scbk]

For future reference, if you want to get rid of a bird of prey nest on your land, the cost is £100 and half a days wage for your labourer 

[Guest Gimlet]

There's a lot more heat than light in this thread. So you're an unscrupulous keeper wanting to get rid of an inconvenient Goshawk nest and the only solution that occurs to you is to cut the whole tree down. Really...? 

That's discreet isn't it. No one will notice.. I suppose when not felling his own woodland to get rid of a birds nest he's digging up badger setts with a JCB. And I dare say if annoyed by a fly buzzing against the window pane in his living room, his natural instinct would be to take a shotgun to it.

 

No mention of the big brother reaction from RSPB placing the whole estate under camera surveillance. When did the RSPB become arbiter and enforcer of wildlife law? The last time I looked they were a charity with no right to enter and place cameras on private property. And who polices their innumerable cock-ups and acts of vandalism carried out in the blind pursuit of a political agenda?

 

Edited July 21, 2021 by Gimlet

[Khriss]

On 16/07/2021 at 07:21, difflock said:

In this instance, quite rightly.

Perhaps if the decent/law abiding/interested in natural-nature fellow landowners(with shooting estates) boycotted this particular callous cretin it might help.

 

The number of raptors getting poisoned alone, on grouse shoots tells you the story. A Oner fine on this is absurd. K