Fencing cost

[Liam54]

1 hour ago, Will C said:

Some say the labour cost should match the material costs for fencing 

It takes the same amount of effort to attach a £24 panel as it does to attach a £100 panel, and the customer on this particular job has chosen a £100 panel so i am keen to give a fair price. I would feel like i am taking the piss to match labour costs with materials or am i missing something?

[Liam54]

1 hour ago, doobin said:

Augers are great. This was today, first time I’ve used it in a few months but it saves a lot of time in tough ground. 

nice one looks great !

[Martin du Preez]

£150 plus vat per bay for concrete post and panel. £80-85 plus vat per m for construct close board fence.

[Martin du Preez]

15 hours ago, Liam54 said:

Good evening,

 

How much labour fees do people charge for constructing panel fencing with concrete posts and gravel boards?

 

I started fencing last year after a mate wanted 6ft feather edge at his home and from there have constructed a few other fences, all of them being feather edged where i was advised off a local fencer to charge £65 per meter which includes the supply of materials plus the labour. I have now been approached to construct a 6ft panel fence which is 50m in length and has to be concrete post and gravel board. The panels are quite expensive that customer wants still waiting on a price from TP but they arent cheap. So my main question is how much labour fees do you typically charge? I read elsewhere £40 per panel. There will be two of us constructing the fence.. 

 

I am also looking at purchasing an auger, I am looking at the one man post hole by 'Digga' and i am also looking at a kangol with auger attachment / option to add other attachments. If any one has experience using this equipment would like to hear good and bad. 

 

Cheers

 

Liam

If you want to build yourself a good name, don't buy from travis perkins, find an actual fencing supplier, their uc4 is horrendous. you will also save yourself a bit of money. 

 

    Augers are brilliant but on diggers, anything smaller and they are only quick in soft ground which a lad could dig with a set of spoons and go through hardcore and roots which little handheld ones wont.

[s.varty]

8 hours ago, Martin du Preez said:

If you want to build yourself a good name, don't buy from travis perkins, find an actual fencing supplier, their uc4 is horrendous. you will also save yourself a bit of money. 

 

    Augers are brilliant but on diggers, anything smaller and they are only quick in soft ground which a lad could dig with a set of spoons and go through hardcore and roots which little handheld ones wont.

Just about sums it up , well said

[aspenarb]

On 05/02/2021 at 18:31, Liam54 said:

Good evening,

 

How much labour fees do people charge for constructing panel fencing with concrete posts and gravel boards?

 

I started fencing last year after a mate wanted 6ft feather edge at his home and from there have constructed a few other fences, all of them being feather edged where i was advised off a local fencer to charge £65 per meter which includes the supply of materials plus the labour. I have now been approached to construct a 6ft panel fence which is 50m in length and has to be concrete post and gravel board. The panels are quite expensive that customer wants still waiting on a price from TP but they arent cheap. So my main question is how much labour fees do you typically charge? I read elsewhere £40 per panel. There will be two of us constructing the fence.. 

 

I am also looking at purchasing an auger, I am looking at the one man post hole by 'Digga' and i am also looking at a kangol with auger attachment / option to add other attachments. If any one has experience using this equipment would like to hear good and bad. 

 

Cheers

 

Liam

 

As the lads have pointed out you need to find a decent supplier, if your location was known I am pretty sure someone on here will know of one on your patch.

As far as estimating goes you really do need to look hard at what you are pricing.If the ground is made up, full of roots or services, if the fence is supporting tons of crap piled up on the neighbours side , ground conditions and levels can all affect progress. Its certainly not a generic rate per panel. Think about terms and conditions on your quote that will cover the unforeseen.

 

Our lads on our landscape work get roped into a fair bit of fencing . The one below looked innocent enough when we priced it, what we didn't know was it was supporting next doors garden/jungle which was considerably higher. Ended up with 3mtr posts ,double concrete gravel boards all dug through heavy roots. Terms and conditions stopped it becoming a costly blamefest.

 

Bob

 

 

 

[lux]

 
As the lads have pointed out you need to find a decent supplier, if your location was known I am pretty sure someone on here will know of one on your patch.
As far as estimating goes you really do need to look hard at what you are pricing.If the ground is made up, full of roots or services, if the fence is supporting tons of crap piled up on the neighbours side , ground conditions and levels can all affect progress. Its certainly not a generic rate per panel. Think about terms and conditions on your quote that will cover the unforeseen.
 
Our lads on our landscape work get roped into a fair bit of fencing . The one below looked innocent enough when we priced it, what we didn't know was it was supporting next doors garden/jungle which was considerably higher. Ended up with 3mtr posts ,double concrete gravel boards all dug through heavy roots. Terms and conditions stopped it becoming a costly blamefest.
 
Bob
 

 

 

I agree. We do a reasonable amount of fencing, generally for existing tree customers although a fair few stand alone fencing jobs. All domestic style stuff.

I always price each site according to its conditions. If I went to cost per metre or bay I think id be underpricing some jobs by a fair margin.

[Liam54]

Some really good bits of advice here thanks all. 
 

I agree finding a fence supplier is key to me growing as a business. On this occasion the customer specifically chose a panel they wanted and instructed I purchase it from TP. However I am now on the look out for a supplier. I am based in Barnstaple, north Devon. 
 

in regards to the auger only being useful on a digger - would it work well on a 1 ton digger or is it not heavy enough ? 

 

I am more than happy to dig holes by hand but I’m also more than happy to invest in some kit that will hopefully allow me to complete more work. I also do tree and gardening work where I could use the mini digger there. Not that keen on buying a digger that wouldn’t access most gardens so I’m really looking at mini diggers specifically if I was to invest. 
 

Thanks again 👍🏼

[doobin]

9 hours ago, Liam54 said:

Some really good bits of advice here thanks all. 
 

I agree finding a fence supplier is key to me growing as a business. On this occasion the customer specifically chose a panel they wanted and instructed I purchase it from TP. However I am now on the look out for a supplier. I am based in Barnstaple, north Devon. 
 

in regards to the auger only being useful on a digger - would it work well on a 1 ton digger or is it not heavy enough ? 

 

I am more than happy to dig holes by hand but I’m also more than happy to invest in some kit that will hopefully allow me to complete more work. I also do tree and gardening work where I could use the mini digger there. Not that keen on buying a digger that wouldn’t access most gardens so I’m really looking at mini diggers specifically if I was to invest. 
 

Thanks again 👍🏼

1t digger is ideal for garden fencing jobs. It can scratch out levels, auger holes and lift ten foot concrete posts in and out of hole no sweat, plus it will fit anywhere.

 

If you're going for a more modern micro such as the 1.2t Bobcat E10, they will handle slightly larger attachments than the old school 750kg micros. I have a Digga PDX3, which is rated for aux flow rates between 30-55 litres/min. Whilst the E10 only puts out 20 litres/min, it just means the auger turns a little slower. Unless you are predominatly on soft sandy ground, I'd rather have an auger with masses more torque turning a little slower than a faster auger that jams every thirty seconds. Plus this way it spans my range from 1.2t, 1.9t and 2.8t, and it's an absoloute weapon at 50litres/min on the E27.

 

Edited February 10, 2021 by doobin

[Peter 1955]

Very little to add to the excellent advice given already. Ah, the excitement of the unknown, when excavating. We did two jobs for the same customer in a village. First one, we dug almost every hole with the Stihl BT 130 petrol auger, piece of cake. She then moved across the village, and up the hill. About ten inches of soil, over stone. Every hole dug mainly with one of these , and a pair of grabbers, absolute nightmare.