Best rope size for pulling outsiders in?

[drinksloe]

Alright just wondering wot everyone uses for rope size for pulling outsiders in?

 

For years used my old 13mm rigging rope along with my tirfor when needed which has worked fine for years.

Last few months snapped my rope twice using it to pull trees in with harvester and forwarder.

 

Was thinking of using the harvester/forwarder to pull/ tow trees in, rather than using the heads, just have a bit more control that way.

 

Got some 19mm wire rope but I don't want to be dragging that about with me, for wieght and wire splinters

 

Either thinking about some dynema rope, which is not cheap or thicker normal rope 15 or 18mm but then more ackward to work with for other things.

Not looking to be towing machines out with my rope just not snapping as easy when machines get carried away

 

 

[Khriss]

Thing wi Tirfors is its a nice steady slow pull, using tractor is more jerky, possibly why yr old rope parted?  K

[woody paul]

if you have pulled rope for years with tirfor and not snapped rope it machine operator that is the problem not understanding what tension to put on rope.     

[drinksloe]

Aye I realise the machines mibbee dinae have a slow enough gear, hence wondering about a heavier rope.

Or ruff buggers driving them ?

 

Usually the tirfor is on my own jobs, be buggered if I'm carrying a tirfor on to forestry sites.

Plus no point in having a dog and barking urself.

 

Just sometimes with the head the machines can struggle if can't get in the right position for some reason.

Thought using the rope and possibly a block for a redirect if needed would be ideal, but never really heard of anyone doing it that way.

[jmac]

Can you not just use a bottle jack?

[Mick Dempsey]

I’d definitely get one of those little portable petrol winches.

[jmac]

28 minutes ago, Mick Dempsey said:

I’d definitely get one of those little portable petrol winches.

I've got a lewis winch, which is great for pulling trees over but its bloody heavy! And if drinksloe is felling on harvesting sites it usually involves carrying all your gear in over shitty ground so I'd imagine he would want to travel light. 

[Mick Dempsey]

Yeah, I get that, tirfors are heavy and slow though.

 

Just throwing it out there.

[lux]

Eder powerwinch 1800. Amazing kit. Most powerful portable petrol winch on the market. Mine has done some incredible work.

[drinksloe]

I'd say I've been there done that jMac ??

00's of meters to 1/2 mile walk isn't unusual carrying all ur gear for day, unless u have an old skool/ex cutter on the forwarder

 

Have those capstan winches got enough pull for big hairy outsiders?

I thought only 800kg to 1 or 2t pull.

 

I have a 20t jack which does well and puts most in, althou I'm going to upgrade it to a 30.

But it's more for the trees u really should have a skidder/winch on but on most forestry sites even a county will struggle to follow the forwarder.

The sticks in talking about are generally 3ft+ at butt usually leaning the wrong way and heavily weighted the wrong way

If wind wrong the day ur there ur screwed wedging it even jacking.

 

I was hoping to just hook a rope on the back of 1 of the machines for the ackward 1s, but not wanting it to snap to eadily, must admit my old rope probably was due to snap anyway the age of it so mibbee not all machines fault.