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1 hour ago, drinksloe said:

See these capstan winches, I've seen them but only clips of them working.

Do they not go slack if u take the tension of the tail?

So if u were felling a tree and put a bit of tension on the rope and went back to cut a bit more would the rope go slack and lose the tension/pull on the tree?

I can only speak for the Eder 1800; as you finish tightening the rope you ease off on the tail rope, which cuts the throttle to tickover and simultaneously the tail rope is held in a cleat, thus maintaining tension until you grab the tail rope and pull at full throttle again.

 

I'd happily come and demonstrate it if I were nearby

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2 hours ago, Stubby said:

Would it be economic to employ  a climber  to put the rope in at the right height to gain max mechanical advantage ?  The principle of moments and all that . 

 

No sane climber would ever entertain it or boss pay for it.

I'm an alleged climber, well got tickets/gear and no idea, but the nearest I ever got to climbing was spiking up live trees and butchering all branches off 1 side. Joys off working on railway and that was decades ago.

Really the clever thing would be to not brash the real big problem trees as easy climbed, know a few cutters hurt themselves in past climbing up trees to cut the heavy branches off and falling, in the days before bottle jack's.

 

 

Cheers mark not entirely sure wot u mean with throw lines.

In larch or some hard woods I have used both ends of line to get round lambs etc. Which is wot I think ur on about

In some of these SS I'd be surprised if u could even get ur throw bag back to the deck, would just get caught on all the branches.

 

Just about to order an 18mm bull rope, rightly or wrongly, need a rope to use with my tirfor now anyway.

Got some trees to do next week n a site where will have to be belt and braces so will need it. And definately no machines allowed so tirfor will be dusted down.

 

Lad in Clarks was saying a few contractors buying 17mm stratos winch rope for don't it, 23T breaking strain but there shock loading it.

Not cheap thou, far outside my price range

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On 30/09/2020 at 21:10, openspaceman said:

I can only speak for the Eder 1800; as you finish tightening the rope you ease off on the tail rope, which cuts the throttle to tickover and simultaneously the tail rope is held in a cleat, thus maintaining tension until you grab the tail rope and pull at full throttle again.

 

I'd happily come and demonstrate it if I were nearby

I was chatting to a lad i know today and he was raving on about the Eder 1800 being brilliant as his employer has one. I may splash the cash meself and buy one.

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7 hours ago, wicklamulla said:

I was chatting to a lad i know today and he was raving on about the Eder 1800 being brilliant as his employer has one. I may splash the cash meself and buy one.

It's a shame I don't get down to Black Dog any more and I've been blown out of felling some ash for my brother's widow in Cheriton Fitzpaine in favour of a local other wise I'd bring it down for you to try first.

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9 hours ago, openspaceman said:

It's a shame I don't get down to Black Dog any more and I've been blown out of felling some ash for my brother's widow in Cheriton Fitzpaine in favour of a local other wise I'd bring it down for you to try first.

Thanks for the thought.  I more than likely know the favoured 'local' or it could even have been me!  I drink in Cheriton Fitzpaine.

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