Have the definitive regulations regarding firewood?

[Ben Pinnick]

On 24/01/2022 at 22:27, Gardenscape said:

Genuine question though. What the hell are us tree surgeons supposed to do with the timber we get from tree jobs? How about we just offload on the roadsides and leave if for the councils? The main reason I sell firewood is to get rid of it and make a little bit of pocket money. 

Assuming the price of firewood goes up as a result of the regs (which is a totally reasonable expectation) you could end up dropping it at a processor, getting paid a good proportion of what you used to, without any hassle. It could, potentially, be better for people like yourself if you can find/partner with someone willing to do the other side.

[john87]

9 minutes ago, Ben Pinnick said:

Assuming the price of firewood goes up as a result of the regs (which is a totally reasonable expectation) you could end up dropping it at a processor, getting paid a good proportion of what you used to, without any hassle. It could, potentially, be better for people like yourself if you can find/partner with someone willing to do the other side.

You will end up, as i stated MUCH earlier, having to pay them to take it.. Wait and see..

 

john..

[renewablejohn]

16 minutes ago, john87 said:

You will end up, as i stated MUCH earlier, having to pay them to take it.. Wait and see..

 

john..

Never had a problem helping tree surgeons with a free tree station which complies with all the regs. it has always been well used as the alternative normally includes a gate fee.

[Dan Maynard]

8 hours ago, renewablejohn said:

Never had a problem helping tree surgeons with a free tree station which complies with all the regs. it has always been well used as the alternative normally includes a gate fee.

I can tip logs free, they get chipped up in bulk for biomass.

[gdh]

I'm still dealing with the misery of woodsure paperwork. They require samples of wood and have the brilliant statement of:

 

'Woodsure is a non-accredited facility, but applies the appropriate testing standards and equipment'.

[john87]

31 minutes ago, gdh said:

I'm still dealing with the misery of woodsure paperwork. They require samples of wood and have the brilliant statement of:

 

'Woodsure is a non-accredited facility, but applies the appropriate testing standards and equipment'.

 

That is like telling the police when stopped; "I have not got a driving licence, but observe the highway code"......

 

john..

[openspaceman]

1 hour ago, gdh said:

I'm still dealing with the misery of woodsure paperwork. They require samples of wood and have the brilliant statement of:

 

'Woodsure is a non-accredited facility, but applies the appropriate testing standards and equipment'.

So in order to trade you have to belong to an organisation that tests the moisture content of your logs but the organisation is not accredited to test log moisture content and the results would not stand up in court yet they can still ban you from being a member and thus prevent you selling logs?

 

Guilds were similar and done away with because they stultified trade.

[dudders]

Yep - it's like me saying to a customer "I'm a non-certificated facility, but I apply the appropriate testing standards and equipment to make sure this firewood is dry."  But that won't work, will it?  It's one rule for them and another for us.  Haven't we just been hearing a bit along those lines quite recently?  🤔

 

I'm about to refer this cock-up to the Competition and Markets Authority, on the grounds that this company has been given a monopoly and is free to do, and charge, whatever it likes, with no competition, which was not the intention of the Act.  I don't hold out much hope, because the CMA isn't that different from Woodsure, so they'll look after their own.  

Edited February 2, 2022 by dudders
It's Wednesday

[john87]

34 minutes ago, dudders said:

Yep - it's like me saying to a customer "I'm a non-certificated facility, but I apply the appropriate testing standards and equipment to make sure this firewood is dry."  But that won't work, will it?  It's one rule for them and another for us.  Haven't we just been hearing a bit along those lines quite recently?  🤔

 

I'm about to refer this cock-up to the Competition and Markets Authority, on the grounds that this company has been given a monopoly and is free to do, and charge, whatever it likes, with no competition, which was not the intention of the Act.  I don't hold out much hope, because the CMA isn't that different from Woodsure, so they'll look after their own.  

If everyone on here chipped in a tenner, could not a judicial review be sought??

 

john..

[Stihl123]

9 hours ago, john87 said:

If everyone on here chipped in a tenner, could not a judicial review be sought??

 

john..

they are putting together something for those that don't do many logs as i asked them about it.

 

it would be a bunch of people joining together to share the cost with and still being compliant 

 

yet another pointless expense