Getting back in the system

[The avantgardener]

I moved around a lot and was in and out of the country from the mid nineties through to mid two thousand. The only thing I needed to do when I set up on my own was pay my NIC’s to make up the shortfall in my pension.

No questions asked whatsoever.

You could tell them you have been living on the streets begging, or you are a travelling bloody minstrel playing for your supper, how and who is going to prove otherwise?

[Khriss]

30 minutes ago, spuddog0507 said:

Yes and thats near on 30 years ago, and if any body thinks its going to be a walk in the park to day and be so easy, well it ain,t the person in question will have some serious questions to answer and believe it or not HMRC will know the answer before the question is asked but you will get your chancem but you will have to have a fantastic memory and be very cleaver to avoid any penaltys, good luck, 

....true, also, HMRC ( and Customs ) have had quite a few redundancies since then and a few spectacular fuck ups so they are a bit more sympathetic now, so, fingers crossed Mr B.  K

[Mark J]

1 hour ago, Khriss said:

....true, also, HMRC ( and Customs ) have had quite a few redundancies since then and a few spectacular fuck ups so they are a bit more sympathetic now, so, fingers crossed Mr B.  K

They're also, really, really busy.

 

[eggsarascal]

2 hours ago, The avantgardener said:

I moved around a lot and was in and out of the country from the mid nineties through to mid two thousand. The only thing I needed to do when I set up on my own was pay my NIC’s to make up the shortfall in my pension.

No questions asked whatsoever.

You could tell them you have been living on the streets begging, or you are a travelling bloody minstrel playing for your supper, how and who is going to prove otherwise?

Same, worked in Spain (cash) through the mid nineties, no questions asked when I took a PAYE job on return. Lived on a narrow boat cruising the inland waterways a few years later, all work I did was cash. Bought a house after that, no questions asked.

 

Those who say they got pulled in and made to pay tax must be those unlucky people that I try to avoid.

Edited April 8, 2020 by eggsarascal

[OOO]

From personal experience of a nomadic lifestyle, I would say that in order to be “part of the system”, (even if on the periphery) - the government needs you to have IDENTIYING NUMBERS that locate you in space and time.

 

In the UK - that means:

an NI number,

an NHS number,

a phone number

and a post-code.

A driving licence number and bank account number also helps, especially when a passport/birth certificate/residency certificate/ business records are unavailable. 

 

In order to gain, keep and use these numbers - one needs an e-mail address. 

 

Then, you are good to go!

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[Mark Bolam]

Sorted.

He’s just going to tell them he’s been a pikey for the last 10 years.

[Mick Dempsey]

Good idea, tell them he’s been one of their slave workers you read about.

[Khriss]

2 hours ago, Mick Dempsey said:

Good idea, tell them he’s been one of their slave workers you read about.

..... Glendales springs to mind   ?  K

Edited April 8, 2020 by Khriss
( haven't had a pop at them fr ages )

[eggsarascal]

On 08/04/2020 at 10:23, tree-fancier123 said:

that's exactly what happened to me in the early nineties, spent about 18 months self employed here and there without saying anything, then took another PAYE job. Letter went something like "between date x and y we have no record of you registering as unemployed, you must have been supporting yourself somehow now pay some tax you sly parasite. How can you expect to live in a country and make use  of it's healthcare, police, education, yet pay nothing in return? People like you need to wake up to what being civilised is all about - or we will find you and send you to prison. Now pay up" or words to that effect.

Parasite!, you paid your way, didn't you?  Let's get this right, I've used the hospitle twice in my life, education back in the 80's was rubbish, I, and I suspect most people don't want the police.around them

 

But let's just keep giving them our money.

[tree-fancier123]

6 hours ago, eggsarascal said:

Parasite!, you paid your way, didn't you?  Let's get this right, I've used the hospitle twice in my life, education back in the 80's was rubbish, I, and I suspect most people don't want the police.around them

 

But let's just keep giving them our money.

So if you made enough money to buy a nice bit of land and gypos  moved onto it, you wouldnt get the polis involved, just giv em a warning and if they still dont go - put em in hospitle. 

Education in the 80s wasnt all rubbish , some parents were rubbish. I went to a rough high school and the best girl in my class is a doctor. She was always telling us idiots to be quiet.

If a foreign country tries to invade us tell them they can take eggs' patch as hes cash in hand wink wink, not paying for defence either.