Has the world changed?

[oldwoodcutter]

Tim, are you suggesting the money is there but you don't want to fork it out ?

All I’m saying is that if I priced jobs up at the quoting stage, to pay labourers and improvers £30 an hour, I’d pretty soon be out of business.

[eggsarascal]

5 minutes ago, carlos said:

every one moans about young lazy youths etc, are there not people in their 30,s 40,s with a bit of experience and a better more steady work ethic around???

might have to  pay them a bit more but might be worth it as apposed to continually looking for and changing staff. 

There's tons of us about, but £150/day doesn't buy it any more. They don't like it.

 

[eggsarascal]

6 minutes ago, oldwoodcutter said:

All I’m saying is that if I priced jobs up at the quoting stage, to pay labourers and improvers £30 an hour, I’d pretty soon be out of business.

We aren't talking about labourers or improvers, we are talking about skilled tradesmen.

[Jwoodgardenmaintenance]

21 minutes ago, carlos said:

every one moans about young lazy youths etc, are there not people in their 30,s 40,s with a bit of experience and a better more steady work ethic around???

might have to  pay them a bit more but might be worth it as apposed to continually looking for and changing staff. 

I'm only 22 work 40 hours a week full time employed then Im also self employed there's some weeks I do 14 hours a day everyday so not all youths are lazy I spent more time kicked out of secondary school than what I was in just so I could go to work and cut gardens to make a wage then left school went to colledge as a mechanic got a apprentiship after about 6 - 8 weeks on my apprentiship I left colledge and was a full time tyre fitter for 2 years left there after me and the boss had a fight then got a job as a drain technician patching and lining drains for alphajet drain services (metrorod) left there to go on new build sites as a ground worker then went self employed but I can't always get my own work on so that's why I've got a full time job so I can pay for my house and council tax so not all youths are bone idle and lazy ?

 

Jack 

[eggsarascal]

14 minutes ago, Jwoodgardenmaintenance said:

I'm only 22 work 40 hours a week full time employed then Im also self employed there's some weeks I do 14 hours a day everyday so not all youths are lazy I spent more time kicked out of secondary school than what I was in just so I could go to work and cut gardens to make a wage then left school went to colledge as a mechanic got a apprentiship after about 6 - 8 weeks on my apprentiship I left colledge and was a full time tyre fitter for 2 years left there after me and the boss had a fight then got a job as a drain technician patching and lining drains for alphajet drain services (metrorod) left there to go on new build sites as a ground worker then went self employed but I can't always get my own work on so that's why I've got a full time job so I can pay for my house and council tax so not all youths are bone idle and lazy ?

 

Jack 

My heart bleeds for ya.

[Jwoodgardenmaintenance]

1 minute ago, eggsarascal said:

My heart bleeds for ya.

Not wanting sympathy ?? just don't want people saying that the youth of today are lazy some are and others are grafters all the good ones are taken that's why there's none about.

Agency work labourers get £15 a hour and all what they need is to pass a multiple choice questionnaire that the job centre put you through a cheap pair of steel toe cap boots a hi viz vest and your ready to go £120 a day to drag your knuckles and not think once, it's a easy job aswell as there is all mechanical aids to do the work 

 

So who'd want to drag brash for less? 

Jack 

[aspenarb]

Tradesman day rates 2017/2018

The UK average daily rates for the some of the more popular trades include:

• • Carpenters: £120 – £150
  • Bricklayer:  £155
  • Labourer: £100 – £160
  • Electricians: £150 – £200
  • Plumbers: £150 – £200
  • Builders: £120 – £200
  • Gardeners: £90 – £160

[eggsarascal]

4 minutes ago, Jwoodgardenmaintenance said:

Not wanting sympathy ?? just don't want people saying that the youth of today are lazy some are and others are grafters all the good ones are taken that's why there's none about.

Agency work labourers get £15 a hour and all what they need is to pass a multiple choice questionnaire that the job centre put you through a cheap pair of steel toe cap boots a hi viz vest and your ready to go £120 a day to drag your knuckles and not think once, it's a easy job aswell as there is all mechanical aids to do the work 

 

So who'd want to drag brash for less? 

Jack 

People have, and always will blame youth, take no notice, kid, I wish I'd got your time over

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[rapalaman]

6 hours ago, Big J said:

It's not quite 'in' the woods, but it's on the edge and would do me just fine:

 

Rackeby Stallstugan, Rackeby Lidköping

WWW.HEMNET.SE

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Fritidshus uppförd på arrenderad mark i mysiga Rackeby. Lummigt läge med en trädgård för den som uppskattar att odla och synliga bergsknallar samt skogen nära inpå. Närhet till...

 

Close to my brother in law too, and only £23k with a quarter of an acre. I've had years where I've paid more rent than that. 

 

If Rebecca is included, I’m in ?

[Big J]

1 minute ago, rapalaman said:

If Rebecca is included, I’m in ?

Haha! Word to the wise though, by Swedish standards she's about a 5. ?