Has the world changed?

[Tommy_B]

I wonder why we can't get decent people. Maybe because we can't last 6 pages before decending into the same tired crap as usual. I would want more that 200 to sit in a van with you lot!

[Old Mill Tree Care]

People don't leave if the boss man, terms and pay are right, why would they?,  I'm sure you are a decent fella, Al, But you seem to be  doing  something wrong, you are always looking for staff after someone's jacked..

No, you are completely wrong Eggs. As usual.

[Old Mill Tree Care]

People jacking on you all the time, no.

It depends upon many factors Eggs. Like,
How long someone was destined to stay for from the start.
Being unfortunate to be lied to by people at ‘interview’ stage.
A business growing.

Too many variables for you to make a judgement on.

[oldwoodcutter]

Good staff are hard to find, and even harder to keep.
All we can do is try our best to keep getting the work in and hope that they stay with you, but of course they know what their mates get kitchen fitting or roof tiling .
Unless you’re gonna start forking out £30 an hour all you can do is try to keep them at whatever rate you can afford, or let them go, and try to train up the next unlikely candidate that slopes into the yard 15 minutes late on their first Monday morning.

[eggsarascal]

5 minutes ago, oldwoodcutter said:

Good staff are hard to find, and even harder to keep.
All we can do is try our best to keep getting the work in and hope that they stay with you, but of course they know what their mates get kitchen fitting or roof tiling .
Unless you’re gonna start forking out £30 an hour all you can do is try to keep them at whatever rate you can afford, or let them go, and try to train up the next unlikely candidate that slopes into the yard 15 minutes late on their first Monday morning.

Tim, are you suggesting the money is there but you don't want to fork it out ?

[carlos]

every one moans about young lazy youths etc, are there not people in their 30,s 40,s with a bit of experience and a better more steady work ethic around???

might have to  pay them a bit more but might be worth it as apposed to continually looking for and changing staff. 

[oldwoodcutter]

Tim, are you suggesting the money is there but you don't want to fork it out ?

All I’m saying is that if I priced jobs up at the quoting stage, to pay labourers and improvers £30 an hour, I’d pretty soon be out of business.

[eggsarascal]

5 minutes ago, carlos said:

every one moans about young lazy youths etc, are there not people in their 30,s 40,s with a bit of experience and a better more steady work ethic around???

might have to  pay them a bit more but might be worth it as apposed to continually looking for and changing staff. 

There's tons of us about, but £150/day doesn't buy it any more. They don't like it.

 

[eggsarascal]

6 minutes ago, oldwoodcutter said:

All I’m saying is that if I priced jobs up at the quoting stage, to pay labourers and improvers £30 an hour, I’d pretty soon be out of business.

We aren't talking about labourers or improvers, we are talking about skilled tradesmen.

[Jwoodgardenmaintenance]

21 minutes ago, carlos said:

every one moans about young lazy youths etc, are there not people in their 30,s 40,s with a bit of experience and a better more steady work ethic around???

might have to  pay them a bit more but might be worth it as apposed to continually looking for and changing staff. 

I'm only 22 work 40 hours a week full time employed then Im also self employed there's some weeks I do 14 hours a day everyday so not all youths are lazy I spent more time kicked out of secondary school than what I was in just so I could go to work and cut gardens to make a wage then left school went to colledge as a mechanic got a apprentiship after about 6 - 8 weeks on my apprentiship I left colledge and was a full time tyre fitter for 2 years left there after me and the boss had a fight then got a job as a drain technician patching and lining drains for alphajet drain services (metrorod) left there to go on new build sites as a ground worker then went self employed but I can't always get my own work on so that's why I've got a full time job so I can pay for my house and council tax so not all youths are bone idle and lazy ?

 

Jack