Global warming fact or fiction? Has it effected when you use your stove?

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Michael Mann Loses Lawsuit Against Climate Sceptic Tim Ball - The Global Warming Policy Forum (GWPF)

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Readers surely recall that the easily offended Dr. Michael Mann launched a court case for defamation against climate skeptic Dr. Tim Ball of Canada. In Feburary 2018 there was a...

 

[BowlandStoves]

I think the truth is somewhere between the two extreme views on climate change but it is a problem we need to address asap.

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How can anything rival the threat of climate change? - Quora

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[BowlandStoves]

Funny how political parties are now on the global warming bandwagon when they werent interested a decade ago. Was it because there were few votes in it a few years ago or am I being unfair

Edited November 28, 2019 by BowlandStoves

[Woodworks]

8 hours ago, BowlandStoves said:

Funny how political parties are now on the global warming bandwagon when they werent interested a decade ago. Was it because there were few votes in it a few years ago or am I being unfair

I doubt they will be interested come the 13th of Dec

[BowlandStoves]

And boom! Climate change does not seem to be awfully high on Boris Johnson's government agenda. Oh these politicians are so so predictable.

[trigger_andy]

Just now, BowlandStoves said:

And boom! Climate change does not seem to be awfully high on Boris Johnson's government agenda. Oh these politicians are so so predictable.

And in turn that reflects the will of the people who voted for him. Its certainly not high on my agenda. Go fix China and India and even the US first, to the level we are currently  at today then come back and preach to this small island. 

[BowlandStoves]

Hi @trigger_andy

 

Here is an interesting argument I saw on another forum.

 

While we, as in the UK and the developed world, are preaching to the likes of India and China about carbon emissions, etc. What right do we have to do this? Are they not just at a stage we were at 100 years ago in the industrial revolution and then the cycle moved on for us? Interesting points I thought

[trigger_andy]

Just now, BowlandStoves said:

Hi @trigger_andy

 

Here is an interesting argument I saw on another forum.

 

While we, as in the UK and the developed world, are preaching to the likes of India and China about carbon emissions, etc. What right do we have to do this? Are they not just at a stage we were at 100 years ago in the industrial revolution and then the cycle moved on for us? Interesting points I thought

I dont agree with this line of reasoning at all. 

 

If we say that the West was at the forefront of of the industrial revolution which started in the late 1700's and we progressively built better and technology to improve the processes. We noted the damage we where doing to the environment and eventually put measures into stop and reverse this. China and India started their own industrial revolution in the late 1800's. They could have easily have benefited from the glaringly obvious damage we where doing and put measures into place to stop it. But being human and the need to catch up that obviously never happened.

 

So fast forward another 150 years, where China and India are manufacturing power houses, with not only their own tech and stealing all of ours, China primarily and they still show no interest, or at best token interest in stopping what they are doing to the environment. 

 

Its a falicy that they are only now going through their industrial revolution now and get a free pass to destroy the environment. All the do-gooders out there are completely wasting their time whilst we allow this to continue around the world. 

[Billhook]

Always good to hear the other side rather than the indoctrination in the media