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But you can't check their anchor point fully unless you are in the tree with them.........

Yes I get that!
My daughters ex is a level 2 irata climber and he just couldn’t get his head round how we know an anchor point is safe!
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32 minutes ago, timbernut said:


Yes I get that!
My daughters ex is a level 2 irata climber and he just couldn’t get his head round how we know an anchor point is safe!

i guess the right answer is we don't. Our assessment of an anchor is based on guidelines when we first start out (two times the size of your wrist i was taught) and then we base our selection based on our experience. This is where throw lines can be an issue when you can't see properly but are ascending on the one line.

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That was what I was taught an what I told him but he just said “ but how do you KNOW ?”!
I guess my input to this thread is not really valid as I’m anti, in general, to the double anchor, but also one of the eejits who could’ve benefitted from them!

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You know when two blokes put their weight on it and it holds. K

As long as it’s static weight and not bounce tested as bounce testing anchors has caused problems before. Weakened the anchor and then failed once the climber began ascending.
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58 minutes ago, Jake Andrews said:


As long as it’s static weight and not bounce tested as bounce testing anchors has caused problems before. Weakened the anchor and then failed once the climber began ascending.

That is exactly what happened to me about 5 years ago.  Luckily I was only 10 foot in the air or something when the anchor (60+ foot) failed.

 

I never bounce test with two men.  

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To be fair. A 20m plus anchor isnt realy visible from ground level. As yr ascending yr testing yr anchor points. Dunno how it can be quantified. Main anchor fr me is thick as my thigh. Secondary ( short) anchor would be thicker than wrist in reliable species. Double that in Beech / Ash / Conifers. K

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