Is this ash dangerous?

[sandspider]

Hi all

 

A not great photo of two ash trees attached. One has only a few leaves, generally looks a bit thin and sorry for itself, whereas the one next to it looks pretty healthy. I'm guessing the sickly one might have chalara? (Can take closer photos if necessary).

 

Secondly (and I appreciate this is hard to tell from a photo) is it likely to be dangerous? It's still alive to some extent, but not looking great. It's over my drive and probably within range of the house, just about... I'd guess it'll be OK for a year or two more, and will lose the odd (dead) branch before it (dies and) falls completely, but is unlikely to recover? I'm waiting to hear back from a tree surgeon to come and have a look at it, but thought I'd ask here in the meantime.

 

Finally, can anyone estimate a price to take it down? Arisings can be left on site, I'll chop the wood up small for my log burner and can use the chippings too. It's between a main ish road and a private driveway, access is OK though not for anything bigger than a Luton type van...

 

Thank you.

 

[Mark Bolam]

Good point Swinny.

I reckon chalara will boost sales of tracked MEWPS in the next few years.

[aspenarb]

31 minutes ago, swinny said:

Theres a lot to be dismantled in a domestic setting though Bob. I've to look at some this weekend and taken a few down allready

The RAMs would still make an interesting night time read Chris.

 

Bob

[sandspider]

Thanks all. Will chase my tree surgeon up and get it done sooner rather than later.

 

I've got another ash with a big limb over the garage that's looking a bit sickly too, shame. I like my ash trees.

 

[Gary Prentice]

12 hours ago, aspenarb said:

As above get it down as soon as possible, if the client leaves it any longer walk away. I recently mulched out a very large compartment of failed/failing Ash , most of it shattered as soon as the machine touched it. I would not be happy sending any of my climbers up dead or dying  Ash.

 

Bob

I find it concerning at the lack of publicity about ash dieback, by LAs, to the general public. Human nature being what it is I think that a lot of tree owners will delay removing trees and allow them to become dangerous before taking action.

 

I was reading the Tree Councils 'action pack' recently, which provides information for LAs in dealing with the disease. It's a good resource, highlighting how to go about securing funding, educating the public and the experiences of other auhorities who are already dealing with the first outbreaks. I did a search to see what the metropolitan Manchester councils were doing to raise awareness and deal with the problem (that's just starting to become apparent in mature trees here). Absolutely nothing. The only thing online are a couple of web pages from around 2014. 

[Ratman]

I find it concerning at the lack of publicity about ash dieback, by LAs, to the general public. Human nature being what it is I think that a lot of tree owners will delay removing trees and allow them to become dangerous before taking action.
 
I was reading the Tree Councils 'action pack' recently, which provides information for LAs in dealing with the disease. It's a good resource, highlighting how to go about securing funding, educating the public and the experiences of other auhorities who are already dealing with the first outbreaks. I did a search to see what the metropolitan Manchester councils were doing to raise awareness and deal with the problem (that's just starting to become apparent in mature trees here). Absolutely nothing. The only thing online are a couple of web pages from around 2014. 

Our local parks and trails round here Gary are a big accident waiting to happen. I’ve never seen em in such a state!!! Battered and dying trees/limbs overhanging paths and public areas etc, general trimming and upkeep is non existent now a days, i’ve never seen as much ivy everywhere strangling things to death too. Shame really!!!

[Gary Prentice]

3 minutes ago, Ratman said:

a big accident waiting to happen.

There's nothing like a fatality to secure additional funding to the tree management team. 

 

Otherwise tree management takes a poor second place to binmen when the public purse is light.

[Ratman]

There's nothing like a fatality to secure additional funding to the tree management team. 
 
Otherwise tree management takes a poor second place to binmen when the public purse is light.

Agree, but its a sickener and a shame that someone has to take the brunt/harm from it for things to happen.

[Gary Prentice]

Just now, Ratman said:

Agree, but its a sickener and a shame that someone has to take the brunt/harm from it for things to happen.

It's the way of the world, unfortunately.

 

A few yrs back a highway tree failed and hit a couple of cars. I think there were two deaths. HSE took the LA to court, as the agent of prosecution, after it came to light that the council didn't have any procedure to carry out safety inspections on highway trees due to lack of resources.

 

I believe that that authority now have six additional TOs/inspectors!

 

We deal with trees daily and most of the posters here understand the benefits and associated risk of them. Sadly everyone else give them little consideration unless they are causing them a personal nuisance. The general thought is that they are environmentally a good thing but when it comes to spending money or allocating resources to them it's a different matter.

 

 

[john p]

Dicking about with dead Ash is a mugs game, get it gone pronto!

[Stubby]

12 hours ago, Gary Prentice said:

I find it concerning at the lack of publicity about ash dieback, by LAs, to the general public. Human nature being what it is I think that a lot of tree owners will delay removing trees and allow them to become dangerous before taking action.

 

I was reading the Tree Councils 'action pack' recently, which provides information for LAs in dealing with the disease. It's a good resource, highlighting how to go about securing funding, educating the public and the experiences of other auhorities who are already dealing with the first outbreaks. I did a search to see what the metropolitan Manchester councils were doing to raise awareness and deal with the problem (that's just starting to become apparent in mature trees here). Absolutely nothing. The only thing online are a couple of web pages from around 2014. 

The estates that surround me  ( West Dean , Goodwood , Cowdray )  aren't being backward about coming forward .  Pretty much raped the lot .