Large tree felling and Windblown trees course

[openspaceman]

4 minutes ago, IronMike said:

Comtension!

like it

[Roby]

I work at a proper felling site and yes, I wouldn't take the assessment one without theory or practice. I am not mad just wanted to think ahead. It is a fact that trees are bloody heavy and dangerous. I had near misses as well. Thank you for reminding me.

[Jamie Jones]

1 hour ago, Roby said:

Not nice, is it?
Although, I would read and learn the book first. All the feedbacks of real-life accumulates in them so books surely teach some general wisdom. You can learn from other ppl's mistakes.

 

What book are you talking about?

 

Is there a single book that covers everything in sections that an Arborist needs to Know?   (From Small Domestic Felling, Forestry Felling, Wind Blown, Uprooted, Climbing, Arial Rescue, Tree Surgery, Pruning, Emergancy Works, Advanced Techniques  Etc)

[Roby]

I was thinking the same LANTRA sources what was needed for CS30, CS31, CS38, CS39.

I'm pretty sure there are the same books for  CS32,34,35 and AFAG, HSE, etc leaflets.

[The avantgardener]

There are LANTRA courses for just about every discipline in Landbased skills, be it in agriculture/forestry or arb. You get the books when you book on a course of training, if you need NPTC accreditation you will need to download the NPTC/City and Guilds assessment schedule for the unit you require also, this is the test that the assessor will ask you about.

An assessor can assessor two candidates for CS32 in a day, CS34 the same.

If you are confident in your ability and know the schedule just book the assessment, there should be a registration fee of around £150 per unit plus the assessors day rate.

[The avantgardener]

1 hour ago, Jamie Jones said:

What book are you talking about?

 

Is there a single book that covers everything in sections that an Arborist needs to Know?   (From Small Domestic Felling, Forestry Felling, Wind Blown, Uprooted, Climbing, Arial Rescue, Tree Surgery, Pruning, Emergancy Works, Advanced Techniques  Etc)

There is a single book that covers all this, it’s called “Years of experience in Forestry and Arb Industry” it’s not something you can pick up in the Library and read overnight though, listen, watch and ask questions when appropriate for the rest of your life in the Industry, you will be surprised that there are still things to learn 20 years later.

 

[Jamie Jones]

16 minutes ago, The avantgardener said:

There are LANTRA courses for just about every discipline in Landbased skills, be it in agriculture/forestry or arb. You get the books when you book on a course of training, if you need NPTC accreditation you will need to download the NPTC/City and Guilds assessment schedule for the unit you require also, this is the test that the assessor will ask you about.

An assessor can assessor two candidates for CS32 in a day, CS34 the same.

If you are confident in your ability and know the schedule just book the assessment, there should be a registration fee of around £150 per unit plus the assessors day rate.

Thanks for the reply... Done My CS30, CS31 and about to do my CS32... Yes I get the course notes... But wondered of there was a proper book that covers all the courses... As a good graphic book is always good to read as I would enjoy reading about other areas that I don't or won't be undertaking so that I have a broader base understanding of all aspects of the business.
I agree that experience is always best... but it is good to have a broad understanding before doing the practical learning..

 

Edited December 9, 2018 by Jamie Jones
missed a bit

[spuddog0507]

6 hours ago, The avantgardener said:

There is a single book that covers all this, it’s called “Years of experience in Forestry and Arb Industry” it’s not something you can pick up in the Library and read overnight though, listen, watch and ask questions when appropriate for the rest of your life in the Industry, you will be surprised that there are still things to learn 20 years later.

 

still after 35+ years doing the job i still class every day as a SCHOOL day, as no 2 situations in the tree job are the same,,

[agrimog]

windblow is not a subject to be taken lightly.........its 90% thinking and 10% cutting,  you need to understand compression, tension, twist and roll, and if its multiple windblow multiply by a factor of OMG, it always makes me cringe when I see courses being offered going sraight from starting up through medium trees, windblow, multiple windlowand so on  done in a fortnight, how the hell are you supossed to learn how timber reacts to different forces, how fast, or slow to cut, how placement of cut by a few inches, or degrees difference can make major changes to reaction forces, or how a winch, or snub line can be your best friend, or worst nightmare, how multiple heavy limbed hardwoods react, and how conifourous poles behave.........it comes with experience and actuall time on tools.........I have said for many years, a return to a system like the old blue book is reqd.......you cant sit an assesment for the next level up till you have an appropriate amount of hands on time, actually signed off by an older experienced mentor..........yes it would stop a lot of people coming into the industry, but it would weed out  the good and competent, and more imprtantly, it would reduce a lot of the stupid accidents that seem to occur these days..........just my thoughts and I am certain there must be others out there with similar thoughts

 

[Khriss]

Definately a mentor driven discipline fr tree works , cannot believe the stuff I have shown to guys an they had never seen it before ( common forestry practises ) k