Assessing climbers for safeness

[Shooter]

In light of some recent videos which show people doing particularly stupid things, it got me to thinking, what safeguards/procedures do you have in place to weed out such climbers from your staff.

 

For example, its sometimes obvious from watching someone over a short period of time what their weaknesses are.  Perhaps they are super quick round the tree and pretty capable, but then have no common sense are likely to kill themselves or someone else.

Would you get rid of them, demote them, or just hope for the best?

[Craig Johnson]

having seen a lot of climbers, common sense is a scarce thing now a days and one way to get over that is working in a safety first culture.

so your suggestions are; get rid (passing the problem on) demote(stopping development) hope for the best(ignoring)don't do anything to improve the situation for your company,  ideally we should be mentoring and training but who has time or money for that in the commercial world!! 

 

[AA Teccie (Paul)]

1 hour ago, Craig Johnson said:

having seen a lot of climbers, common sense is a scarce thing now a days and one way to get over that is working in a safety first culture.

so your suggestions are; get rid (passing the problem on) demote(stopping development) hope for the best(ignoring)don't do anything to improve the situation for your company,  ideally we should be mentoring and training but who has time or money for that in the commercial world!! 

 

Wise words Craig and one would hope that safety culture is embedded such that everyone in the business feels a responsibility to everyone else (perhaps a bit idealistic but it should be the employers intention.) This was team leaders / supervisors have a responsibility to mentor and train, alongside managers and employers, and hopefully as a collective things / safety can move forward.

 

Regarding the "time/money" issue, if an employer feels the issue is important enough he/she will invest such after all an expected outcome would be a more proficient climber / operator surely.

 

IMHO/E age, and associated responsibilities / dependents, is a factor on an individual level as to what degree of risk one is prepared to expose oneself to...and that's often a part of our development and, hopefully, continued progression through the industry...not to suggest it's a good idea of course (exposing yourself to, higher than you need to, levels of risk.)

 

Cheers, n hope you're well,

Paul

 

[AA Teccie (Paul)]

PS one further thing here (sorry) regardless of training / qualifications / experience etc., all of which are very relevant, but HSE would primarily consider 'capability' of the individual and are absolutely clear that regardless of the afore mentioned issues the employer carries the can here in the event of an incident / accident.

 

Hence at a cost of £124 p/h (HSE Fees For Intervention (FFI) for investigating a material H&S breach) or worse if a prosecution, that employer investment of ''time/money" is probably well spent.

 

P.

[Craig Johnson]

and once that investment has been made they have some highly transferable skills and a transigent attitude to where they work

[AA Teccie (Paul)]

13 minutes ago, Craig Johnson said:

and once that investment has been made they have some highly transferable skills and a transigent attitude to where they work

Craig, I acknowledge that is (too) often the case but equally it may contribute to better staff retention.

 

However, it was more to do with ensuring climbers, and in fact all staff, have the capabilities to undertake whatever tasks / jobs you require of them...training and quals. are the 'driving test' equivalents which the employer is required to invest in (if it's H&S related of course.)

[aspenarb]

22 hours ago, Shooter said:

In light of some recent videos which show people doing particularly stupid things, it got me to thinking, what safeguards/procedures do you have in place to weed out such climbers from your staff.

 

For example, its sometimes obvious from watching someone over a short period of time what their weaknesses are.  Perhaps they are super quick round the tree and pretty capable, but then have no common sense are likely to kill themselves or someone else.

Would you get rid of them, demote them, or just hope for the best?

 

I think you can tell what a climber is all about by the time they have got their kit on and are standing at the bottom of a tree. There is an air of confidence about someone thats good at their job, its not to be confused with just being cocky.

 

Bob

Edited August 29, 2018 by aspenarb

[Mark Bolam]

Have you been drinking Bon?

[aspenarb]

3 minutes ago, Mark Bolam said:

Have you been drinking Bon?

Just been powdering my nose Mark, fixed it

 

Bob

[eggsarascal]

4 minutes ago, Mark Bolam said:

Have you been drinking Bon?

No, he's been to my school of spelling.