Are air dried logs to be made illegal?

[Woodworks]

9 minutes ago, aesmith said:

That document has figures for the UK, and if you look at Aberdeen for example they vary between 15.5% and a maximum of 18.4%

Aberdeen is on the east coast when most of our weather comes from the west and south west. Places to the lea of high ground are normally far drier with lower humidity. 

[Woodworks]

9 minutes ago, Big J said:

Aberdeen is pretty miserable actually. Loads of sea mist and perpetual grey skies. 

Yes never been there but generally the wettest and most humid parts are west facing hills in the west. Alway exceptions though.

 

It can be so localised. We are on the West of Dartmoor but you only need to go a half hour from here to the NE of the moors and it can be a different world. Everything is green and lush here but went to Crediton last week and it was like a dessert by comparison. 

 

Whatever the new rules they need to give us all a sporting chance of complying with the rules. 25% burns fine and can be achieved by all whatever the weather.

Edited October 7, 2018 by Woodworks

[Ian C]

I have given up doing logs this year, there is simply no money in logs from arb waste, more cost affective for us to send it off in 27t bulkers, we chip up to 12" anyway so getting rid of the logs will be a bonus, no more running round doing deliveries for peanuts.

[daveatdave]

4 hours ago, Ian C said:

I have given up doing logs this year, there is simply no money in logs from arb waste, more cost affective for us to send it off in 27t bulkers, we chip up to 12" anyway so getting rid of the logs will be a bonus, no more running round doing deliveries for peanuts.

that's why you wanted to sell off bulk loads from your yard still 12"seems a waste

[Woodworks]

12 hours ago, Ian C said:

I have given up doing logs this year, there is simply no money in logs from arb waste, more cost affective for us to send it off in 27t bulkers, we chip up to 12" anyway so getting rid of the logs will be a bonus, no more running round doing deliveries for peanuts.

Try not charging peanuts. With the cost of roundwood rocketing I would have thought you tree boys are quids in with free (admittedly difficult) wood when firewood firms are paying an arm and a leg for the raw material. If the price of logs has not gone up much yet it wont be long.

[kevinjohnsonmbe]

On 24/09/2018 at 18:13, gdh said:

Interestingly I noticed recently that Certainly Wood who are pushing for the new regulations only average 20% on their kiln dried.

It was interesting to watch the nomination and election process for the BSL advisory panel recently.  I have to admit to having a healthy cynicism for such bodies since it will always be the big boys that get a seat at the table to the exclusion / disadvantage of the smaller / independent players.  This will inevitably result in the deck being stacked in favour of the conditions and restrictions which favour them and become increasingly difficult to achieve at the smaller / localised level.  

 

To hell with it, they'll never stop rural folk from burning wood and they'll never be in a position to monitor the product effectively (at the smaller / local level.) 

[Ian C]

1 hour ago, Woodworks said:

Try not charging peanuts. With the cost of roundwood rocketing I would have thought you tree boys are quids in with free (admittedly difficult) wood when firewood firms are paying an arm and a leg for the raw material. If the price of logs has not gone up much yet it wont be long.

To be honest I have worked it out and to make it worh doing I need 120 a cube min, there shit loads round here doing dumpy bags for 40 quid, theres no way I will sell them at £120 a cube.

[Ian C]

8 hours ago, daveatdave said:

that's why you wanted to sell off bulk loads from your yard still 12"seems a waste

yep, all be going, I get more for woodchip than I do for timber! messing round with arb waste for logs is time consuming and were too busy to even look at logs.

[Logsnstuff]

On 08/10/2018 at 08:14, Ian C said:

To be honest I have worked it out and to make it worh doing I need 120 a cube min, there shit loads round here doing dumpy bags for 40 quid, theres no way I will sell them at £120 a cube.

I’m charging £128 a cube bag and £98 for a 3/4 and if I had work for the forwarder I wouldnt do them at all, every year there’s more and more starting up slashing prices £60 roadside atm for birch makes you wonder how they can sell at £60 a cube delivered.

[Acerforestry]

I haven't had time to go through all the posts, but the cynic in me is saying this is just another government move to clobber the little guy. "If you are a mass scale kiln dried, DEFRA approved set-up, do please continue...if you are trying to make a bit of holiday money from flogging off some arb waste, we are going to  put the kybosh on what you do"...it all makes me furious, dry is dry for Christ's sake and once out of the kiln it will simply take on ambient MOISTURE. The country is run by bloody idiots