Brexit ! what will this mean ? ( lets get a good thread going )

[Mark Bolam]

The Four Nations rugby won't seem the same either.

[Rich Rule]

21 hours ago, WesD said:

Fair enough, that was my point though more will come to replace what has left the same will happen in London except the markets are largely successful for large firms.  

 

Out of interest have you asked locals and norwegian friends if they’d like to be part of the EU like the UK is? If so what are their thoughts and do they think we are doing right by ourselves in coming out or do they think we are making a mistake?

The only person I have spoken to it about is my missus uncle.  He is a commercial fisherman up in the Arctic.

 

He was glad that people who had no idea what a Cod looks like could tell him how to do his job.

 

This was a while back though.

 

I tend not to discuss politics too much.  Like them or loath them, the policies and they who set them...  nothing much changes whoever makes the rules

[Khriss]

17 yrs of Thatcher, then 10 yrs of Austerity ( thanks RBS ) an it will be another ten yrs of Us picking up the pieces of this bloody fiasco  ! ( not Brussels, Boris or Cameron ) k

[Haironyourchest]

So, UK, Ireland, Denmark and Malta have voted to NOT join the EU army. Good.

[Vespasian]

9 minutes ago, Haironyourchest said:

So, UK, Ireland, Denmark and Malta have voted to NOT join the EU army. Good.

 

In fairness, any european army would be better off sticking to Germany and France, can you imagine the Belgiums being asked to fight?.more than likely couldn't fight themselves out a paper bag...

 

Meanwhile in the real world, The remainers snub their thumb thumb at Davies take it or leave it vote at the end of brexit...

 

We'll know in a week or two if the remainers mean to throw a spanner in the works and vote in Britain's national interests or the  interests of the brexiteering scum in the Tory  party..     

 

                                                          

[matelot]

1 hour ago, Vespasian said:

We'll know in a week or two if the remainers mean to throw a spanner in the works and vote in Britain's national interests or the  interests of the brexiteering scum in the Tory  party..     

 

                                                          

maybe you could tone down the rhetoric a bit?

[javelin10]

Trying to forecast our future is a fool's errand, and as someone has already said; In 10 years what would we compare our situation to? Forecasting is what led the leavers at referendum time to say "we aren't listening to experts anymore", but expert opinion and forecasting aren't the same thing.

 

Experts were already debunking brexit myths long before the vote, such as 'getting rid of all the silly EU regulations' (not going to happen; we will still have to make stuff to EU spec to sell it anywhere) and the £350m/week bollocks, and a dozen other things I could mention. The problem was that no-one cared. The leave campaign had their eurosceptics in the bag of course, but they were only really about 25% of people likely to vote. They had to make up the numbers with people who hated the Tory government, or politicians in general, or refugees/EU citizens/muslims/Illegal immigrants (leavers tended to make no distinction as the newspapers tended to paint them all the same). Leave presented itself as the choice that could change Britain for the better, whereas Remain was just more of the same.

 

Desperate people went for the change option. Does that make them retards? Actually it does a bit. Just because something has changed doesn't mean it will change for the better. Apathetic voters or first-time voters didn't really look at the detail at all, and ardent leavers want to ignore it. The EU economy is 6 times larger then the UK economy; that is why the US President (the last real one, that is) said we'd have to get to the back of the queue, why the Chinese said 'we don't deal with minnows (ouch!) and why the EU has the upper hand in all things other then financial services. The City of London will get a good deal if any deal is made. The rest of us will not.

 

[WesD]

10 minutes ago, javelin10 said:

Trying to forecast our future is a fool's errand, and as someone has already said; In 10 years what would we compare our situation to? Forecasting is what led the leavers at referendum time to say "we aren't listening to experts anymore", but expert opinion and forecasting aren't the same thing.

 

Experts were already debunking brexit myths long before the vote, such as 'getting rid of all the silly EU regulations' (not going to happen; we will still have to make stuff to EU spec to sell it anywhere) and the £350m/week bollocks, and a dozen other things I could mention. The problem was that no-one cared. The leave campaign had their eurosceptics in the bag of course, but they were only really about 25% of people likely to vote. They had to make up the numbers with people who hated the Tory government, or politicians in general, or refugees/EU citizens/muslims/Illegal immigrants (leavers tended to make no distinction as the newspapers tended to paint them all the same). Leave presented itself as the choice that could change Britain for the better, whereas Remain was just more of the same.

 

Desperate people went for the change option. Does that make them retards? Actually it does a bit. Just because something has changed doesn't mean it will change for the better. Apathetic voters or first-time voters didn't really look at the detail at all, and ardent leavers want to ignore it. The EU economy is 6 times larger then the UK economy; that is why the US President (the last real one, that is) said we'd have to get to the back of the queue, why the Chinese said 'we don't deal with minnows (ouch!) and why the EU has the upper hand in all things other then financial services. The City of London will get a good deal if any deal is made. The rest of us will not.

 

So more than half of our population are desperate and a bit retarded?

 

“Just because something has changed doesn’t mean it will be better” nor does it mean it will be worse. 

 

Making things to EU spec to sell is different to having EU laws. 

 

Dont forget people Austria have just had a massive change in leader. France too granted he’s pro EU. Germany have a coalition of 3 and can’t agree anything between them ...... these EU nations aren’t exactly stable and yes their combined economy is bigger but a lot of these nations are dictated too on interest rates and the likes so buying power is mixed nation to nation within the EU. 

 

German car manufacturers are a small drop in the EU ocean yet they are pleading to not punish us as it punished them, why is this?

 

People have an awful habit of underselling the UK!

[WesD]

Out of curiosity, if we go and make a good go of it and do well do people still think there will be an EU bloc in 10-15 years? Will Greece and the likes carry on being broke or make a go of it on their own?

[matelot]

I have to admit that it says a lot that Bremoaners have to resort to insults....

 

I honestly wish all the Bremoaners would hop on a plane and live in the EU.