Trump Petition

[Daniël Bos]

False analogy. Neither Hitler - who,btw, claimed to be a Xtian - or Stalin used atheism as motivation or justification to carry out their atrocities - you could just as easily claim that the fact that they both had moustaches led them to undertake such heinous crimes.

As for ''far outweighing any atrocities committed in the name of religion'', possibly the greatest genocide in rrecorded history was the one carried out on Hindu India by the Mughal Empire, truly staggering numbers that dwarf the efforts of Hitler and Stalin combined. Best not mention the religion responsible, wouldn't want to be accused of possessing any 'phobias'

Care to enlighten us on these truly staggering numbers?

My limited knowledge of the period suggests that though there certainly was violence, one of the more remarkable things was the way the empire allowed other religions to be, and to absorb and integrate sanskrit (Hindu) knowledge.

[kevinjohnsonmbe]

you could just as easily claim that the fact that they both had moustaches led them to undertake such heinous crimes.:

 

 

There simply is NO rationale argument against that logic!

[MattyF]

Care to enlighten us on these truly staggering numbers?

My limited knowledge of the period suggests that though there certainly was violence, one of the more remarkable things was the way the empire allowed other religions to be, and to absorb and integrate sanskrit (Hindu) knowledge.

 

 

They eradicated them as best they could hence why the Hindu Kush has no Hindus .. 20 million is a rough number also a the rest where pretty much used as slaves and such things as the males made in to eunuchs in an attempt to stop them breeding.

[Mark J]

Hitler was dictator who capitalised upon the discontent of the Populis.

 

Trump is a reality Tv character trying to one-up Schrawzenegger.

Edited February 14, 2017 by Mark J

[Mull]

So, getting back on track! Should Trump come over for a state visit? I think he should, the man is an absolute legend! Having said that, I don't think he should be in charge of the remote control for the TV, never mind the USA.

 

 

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[Saw-sick Steve]

Care to enlighten us on these truly staggering numbers?

My limited knowledge of the period suggests that though there certainly was violence, one of the more remarkable things was the way the empire allowed other religions to be, and to absorb and integrate sanskrit (Hindu) knowledge.

Koenraad Elst, in 'Negationism in India'', puts the figure at somewhere north of 100 million,

Daniel Pipes arrives at a similar figure, many Hindu sources would say that's a conservative estimate and double it to 200 million +, whereas some Muslims deny the whole thing ever happened, claiming nobody died and that thousands converted to Islam of their own volition, once they realised it was the one true religion. The BBC History site - while keen to list the 'benefits' brought by the invaders - scarcely touches on these massacres and forced conversions, in marked contrast - obviously - to their history of the British in India. So, like many historical events, the truth is often subjective, the Turkish denial of the Armenian genocide is a case in point.

 

On the subject of Trump and his travel ban, although it's a 'Fox News' link, this story is quite relevant to the debate

 

[ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amNRGpA4Ph8[/ame]

 

Listen, in particular, to the last minute of the interview - then google 'taqiya' and 'kitman'.

[Saw-sick Steve]

So, getting back on track! Should Trump come over for a state visit? I think he should, the man is an absolute legend! Having said that, I don't think he should be in charge of the remote control for the TV, never mind the USA.

 

 

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Trump is a vain, egotistical narcissist, of that there can be no doubt, and, if the opportunity arose, I could never imagine voting for him - or Clinton, for that matter - BUT, like it or not, he is the democratically elected POTUS, and de facto Leader of the Free World, and I'm getting rather weary of the reluctance shown by certain people who not only refuse to accept this fact and move on, but who then go on to actively orchestrate a campaign to first hamstring and then ultimately overthrow his administration, thereby effectively overturning a democratic vote - and they accuse Trump of being a Facist?

If you don't like the result, organise yourself, debate the issues that matter, stop 'no platforming' people and retreating to your 'safe space' and - crucially - run a candidate next time who's USP isn't solely the fact that they possess a vagina.

[felixthelogchopper]

Trump is a vain, egotistical narcissist, of that there can be no doubt, and, if the opportunity arose, I could never imagine voting for him - or Clinton, for that matter - BUT, like it or not, he is the democratically elected POTUS, and de facto Leader of the Free World, and I'm getting rather weary of the reluctance shown by certain people who not only refuse to accept this fact and move on, but who then go on to actively orchestrate a campaign to first hamstring and then ultimately overthrow his administration, thereby effectively overturning a democratic vote - and they accuse Trump of being a Facist?

If you don't like the result, organise yourself, debate the issues that matter, stop 'no platforming' people and retreating to your 'safe space' and - crucially - run a candidate next time who's USP isn't solely the fact that they possess a vagina.

 

Very good post.

[TIMON]

Trump is a vain, egotistical narcissist, of that there can be no doubt, and, if the opportunity arose, I could never imagine voting for him - or Clinton, for that matter - BUT, like it or not, he is the democratically elected POTUS, and de facto Leader of the Free World, and I'm getting rather weary of the reluctance shown by certain people who not only refuse to accept this fact and move on, but who then go on to actively orchestrate a campaign to first hamstring and then ultimately overthrow his administration, thereby effectively overturning a democratic vote - and they accuse Trump of being a Facist?

 

If you don't like the result, organise yourself, debate the issues that matter, stop 'no platforming' people and retreating to your 'safe space' and - crucially - run a candidate next time who's USP isn't solely the fact that they possess a vagina.

 

 

Spot on. [emoji106]

 

 

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[kevinjohnsonmbe]

Trump is a vain, egotistical narcissist, of that there can be no doubt, and, if the opportunity arose, I could never imagine voting for him - or Clinton, for that matter - BUT, like it or not, he is the democratically elected POTUS, and de facto Leader of the Free World, and I'm getting rather weary of the reluctance shown by certain people who not only refuse to accept this fact and move on, but who then go on to actively orchestrate a campaign to first hamstring and then ultimately overthrow his administration, thereby effectively overturning a democratic vote - and they accuse Trump of being a Facist?

 

If you don't like the result, organise yourself, debate the issues that matter, stop 'no platforming' people and retreating to your 'safe space' and - crucially - run a candidate next time who's USP isn't solely the fact that they possess a vagina.

 

 

👍🏻 that's about the sum of it! 👍🏻