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The only way a 'scientist' can hold an intelligent design belief position is by not applying science to it.

 

 

And holding to a belief that something came from nothing is any different?

 

Why is it that atheists insist on using a yardstick on others that they won't use on themselves ....?

 

I'll tell you why... it's called philosophical prejudice, and the reason for that is because none of you know for sure how it "All" came about. (Go on, admit it) So to categorically discount other possibilities just because you don't personally like them is really bad science when it boils down to it.

 

 

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If they are so badly funded why are they still in existence? The truth of the matter is that they get financial assistance/ weapons/ and volunteers from places like Saudi.....

 

 

 

The yanks trained up the Iraqi army for years and gave them top quality weapons. IS overran the Iraqi army in weeks, not bad for a bunch of "headless chickens".

 

 

 

The denial on this thread is strong.

 

 

Especially from you.

I'm sure you would not dare say these things in a room with people (unless it was a far right tea party)

 

 

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And holding to a belief that something came from nothing is any different?

 

Why is it that atheists insist on using a yardstick on others that they won't use on themselves ....?

 

I'll tell you why... it's called philosophical prejudice, and the reason for that is because none of you know for sure how it "All" came about. (Go on, admit it) So to categorically discount other possibilities just because you don't personally like them is really bad science when it boils down to it.

 

 

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Just because we don't understand the entirety of existence does not mean that we need to start inventing stories to try to explain that which we as yet don't know. There is so much that has been discovered in recent decades that was entirely abstract prior to it's discovery.

 

 

 

I accept that science is a belief system. I have no problem with that. I know that some of what is accepted scientific fact now will be disproven at a later date. I also have no problem with that. The very fact that rigorous peer review, continued and extensive research and inspired scientific hypothesis is at the centre of my belief in the scientific process gives me great confidence that it is the soundest, most logical and most progressive belief system to have.

 

 

 

The best you can say about religion is that it's utter bollocks. The worst is that it is a cancer on humanity.

 

 

 

Couldn't agree more!!:thumbup1:

 

 

This AGAIN guys? Love it!

 

 

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Just because we don't understand the entirety of existence does not mean that we need to start inventing stories to try to explain that which we as yet don't know. There is so much that has been discovered in recent decades that was entirely abstract prior to it's discovery.

 

 

 

I accept that science is a belief system. I have no problem with that. I know that some of what is accepted scientific fact now will be disproven at a later date. I also have no problem with that. The very fact that rigorous peer review, continued and extensive research and inspired scientific hypothesis is at the centre of my belief in the scientific process gives me great confidence that it is the soundest, most logical and most progressive belief system to have.

 

 

 

The best you can say about religion is that it's utter bollocks. The worst is that it is a cancer on humanity.

 

 

You we're doing great up until the last paragraph.

 

 

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It's a shame that in this day and age people still can't tolerate that people have different beliefs and have to insult each other instead.

 

Religion, like everything, has positives and negatives but in the end it's just a way of grouping people with similar beliefs together and if it helps people to be happier by being Christian, Atheist, Muslim or whatever then good for them, it certainly shouldn't be a reason to look down on them.

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It's a shame that in this day and age people still can't tolerate that people have different beliefs and have to insult each other instead.

 

Religion, like everything, has positives and negatives but in the end it's just a way of grouping people with similar beliefs together and if it helps people to be happier by being Christian, Atheist, Muslim or whatever then good for them, it certainly shouldn't be a reason to look down on them.

 

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Isis have no base and no leader and therefore no proper funding. They just charge about like headless chickens killing whoever they can, frequently including fellow muslims who happen to be there.

There is no way they will ever be in a position to mount any kind of organised attack on the west, just brain dead youths thinking they will get 72 virgins. 500 deaths in 2 years is nothing to a population of 500,000,000. (Obviously very sorry to those who died)

Time to worry is when they war planes and tanks. I personally can't see this happening. Ever.

 

And hear lies the problem vastly underestimating the enemy.

 

Muslims wage war on every level and will use any means available may be go back some 1700 years and see the empire that they had they made it all the way to Spain and in to France it took 700 years for the crusades to get it back.

 

Any body that is deemed a Keffer is deemed lower than dogs.

 

Them refugees are young men ready to fight.

 

Does it not worry you how easy it is for them to rape.

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It's a shame that in this day and age people still can't tolerate that people have different beliefs and have to insult each other instead.

 

Religion, like everything, has positives and negatives but in the end it's just a way of grouping people with similar beliefs together and if it helps people to be happier by being Christian, Atheist, Muslim or whatever then good for them, it certainly shouldn't be a reason to look down on them.

 

 

Balance^^[emoji122]

 

 

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The best you can say about religion is that it's utter bollocks. The worst is that it is a cancer on humanity.

 

 

With the greatest respect for your personal view on religion J, the one point that strikes me as always being over-looked in the great pro/anti religion debate is the huge "comfort" that religion (any denomination) brings to millions of humans all over the world.

 

We always seem to focus on the perception that blame / cause of strife is the result of religious belief - possibly more accurately described as the failings of mankind hidden or justified under the banner of religious justification - but, regardless wether one holds a belief or not, we never seem to recognise that a great many draw a great comfort from it.

 

Just saying, I don't mind if people take comfort from something I don't understand.... (Perhaps like yourself though, I kind of do mind if people do bad stuff and try to justify by religion)

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