Would you class this as good tree surgery

[roseyweb]

A topped tree is still a tree

A felled tree is a stump

 

You shouldn't judge a tree by its pruning less you know the story it could have a massive cavity or any other manor of reasons.

[MattyF]

Why is the type of work in the OP bad for the tree? What makes cutting the limbs the way they are dangerous for future climbers?

 

I'm not a tree surgeon so just curious?

 

 

 

The limbs cut at stubs can not compartmentalise and heal, a reaction to loosing so many buds is every dormant bud in the tree bursts this growth is very vigorous and weak but in say 5 years time you end up with a denser thicker canopy probably exceeding its original height and definitely density and that's if the tree survives.. the energy put in to the regrowth can have effects of making it susceptible to a whole host of pathogen attacks and drought.

For a climber that has to reclimb a tree on weak growth on rot is not ideal.

Agree Rosey there is a time and place but in most cases if you follow a tree that's had this done to it more often than not years later ultimately it goes in decline even if it survives it still requires costly future management to keep safe as it's full of even more defects.

[Gary Prentice]

"But if we don't do it, someone else will!":thumbdown:

[MattyF]

"But if we don't do it, someone else will!":thumbdown:

 

 

If you give the customer the above points usually they don't want it doing .. cutting below pollard knuckles not even attempting to hit pruning targets is just lazy and short sited and in my opinion if your selling your self as an arborist or tree care specialist you are a con man if you don't tell the customer the above points I tried to make ... but as rosy says we don't know the story of the above tree but that is my general feeling about most the hat rack pruning you see.

[treequip]

if your selling your self as an arborist or tree care specialist ........

 

Well we might tell ourselves that we are looking after trees but as an industry we look after people's needs and desires rather than what's best for the trees

[stihlmadasever]

Lets put this into perspective,no its not best practice but all we can do is advise the client how to prune the tree,perhaps put a maintenance plan in over several years but with the best intentions some clients just want a tree butchered and theres nowt you can do to talk them out of it.For some reason they think your trying to rip them off by securing future work from them.As said before ive butchered trees for money...i dont like it ,im not proud of it but my morgage gets paid.

I sleep well every night.

[Treeation]

Well we might tell ourselves that we are looking after trees but as an industry we look after people's needs and desires rather than what's best for the trees

 

I think that is subjective to each individual customer - some are very caring about trees and seek a "tree care specialist" who has the knowledge and cares about trees. Others almost laugh in your face when you explain to them that taking too much off will probably kill the tree and just want the job done for peanuts.

 

I guess with time you can weed out the crap customers and keep the good ones.

 

I am going to keep telling myself I am a tree care specialist and aim for work that interests me:001_smile:

[kevinjohnsonmbe]

 

 

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It's ugly and (probably) wholly inappropriate and it'll catch your eye every time you pass it because you know it's a hatchet job. Joe Public however, probably wouldn't give it a second thought.

 

Any way my back is right up on this as I keep getting photos of trees from passers by of the trees that we looked after for over 25 years completely wrecked by a tool on this forum .. you know who you are and don't ever message me again telling me how good it is to have my old customers you might be at the other end of the country but I will certainly not recommended your services.

 

That's understandable, it might be considered sentimental and impractical in the cut & thrust of commercial work, but I like to pass a tree I've previously worked on and think "...that turned out well..." and probably stop to have a brew with the homeowner, rather than passing it and thinking "...hope nobody knows that was me..."

 

If you give the customer the above points usually they don't want it doing .. cutting below pollard knuckles not even attempting to hit pruning targets is just lazy and short sited and in my opinion if your selling your self as an arborist or tree care specialist you are a con man if you don't tell the customer the above points I tried to make ... but as rosy says we don't know the story of the above tree but that is my general feeling about most the hat rack pruning you see.

 

Pick the customers comes to mind.

[Parrott tree care]

A topped tree is still a tree

A felled tree is a stump

 

You shouldn't judge a tree by its pruning less you know the story it could have a massive cavity or any other manor of reasons.

 

 

I checked tree for faults there is none just bad practice

 

 

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[Mark Bolam]

I think that is subjective to each individual customer - some are very caring about trees and seek a "tree care specialist" who has the knowledge and cares about trees. Others almost laugh in your face when you explain to them that taking too much off will probably kill the tree and just want the job done for peanuts.

 

I guess with time you can weed out the crap customers and keep the good ones.

 

I am going to keep telling myself I am a tree care specialist and aim for work that interests me:001_smile:

 

Good post.