Petrol v diesel long and short term costs...

[TimberCutterDartmoor]

Eat my soot!

 

Long Live Diesel Power!

 

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[/ame] Edited December 3, 2016 by TimberCutterDartmoor

[TimberCutterDartmoor]

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[Ty Korrigan]

given the distances we cover over here you need to also think about towing waight. the TW125 i have is about 500kg, the GM130 is 750kg (yes i know they are both petrol, its just i know those 2 machines), thats alot more to pull around, truck working harder, more fuel in the truck, clutch working harder....

 

More factoids:

Unladen without chipper, our Iveco 3.5t consumes 10litres per 100km

Loaded with 4m3 of chip and towing a 1350kg chipper 12.5litres per 100km

As for clutch working harder, one clutch every 3-4years perhaps is a tiny cost given the amount of work and turnover achieved.

Ty

[Ty Korrigan]

I guess that E85 is out of the question then...

 

https://www.vanguardengines.co.uk/na/en_us/support/faqs/browse/fuel-recommendations.html

 

Ty

[Ian C]

With the new thoughts on diesel engines suggesting they are very bad for us and the environment. Are we going to see large tractors etc with petrol engines? If so there will presumably need to be "red" petrol for farmers, plant, etc.

 

So in the long run we could end up benefiting, as we will have rebated fuel for our saws, who knows maybe even Aspen will qualify?

Big engines will remain simply because they have the space and weight to fit what ever is needed to make them as clean as possible, small plant engines have restrictions on space and weight and as for rebated petrol like the government is going to let that happen!

 

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[skyhuck]

Big engines will remain simply because they have the space and weight to fit what ever is needed to make them as clean as possible, small plant engines have restrictions on space and weight and as for rebated petrol like the government is going to let that happen!

 

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Didn't work on cars (they have pretty big engines) if you don't believe me ask Volkswagen

[Ian C]

Didn't work on cars (they have pretty big engines) if you don't believe me ask Volkswagen

 

No it does work vw said it does[emoji13]they wouldn't possibly lie would they!

 

Plenty of big trucks and tractors etc to prove diesel can be cleaner but it's down to cost and space available, guess there will come a point where they just can't be improved upon.

 

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[Burgess]

With the new thoughts on diesel engines suggesting they are very bad for us and the environment. Are we going to see large tractors etc with petrol engines? If so there will presumably need to be "red" petrol for farmers, plant, etc.

 

So in the long run we could end up benefiting, as we will have rebated fuel for our saws, who knows maybe even Aspen will qualify?

 

The argument with diesel isn't about greenhouse gases (of which I think diesel's produce less, thus the strive for diesel cars a few years ago) but the local pollutents affecting air quality of which a diesel engine is worse for.

 

So no you won't see petrol tractors unless they tax it out of viability

[agrimog]

its the longevity of diesel engines that is the biggest factor, most plant and commercial stuff arent high reving engines which makes for long usage, also the basic simplicity of the design and maintainance, allso the way diesel produces the torque

[PeteB]

I don't think anyone will have a sub 750 woodchippers with 35hp diesel soon enough. Diesel engines will get more complicated, very expensive and a load heavier with the new tier regs! We may all have to accept the smaller diesel units like the 26hp we already use or a petrol! We have already looked at 80hp Kubota petrol engines in chippers, gas conversions and hydrogen generators fitted to engines!

Edited December 4, 2016 by PeteB